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Maggie Leman
Posted From: 71.111.205.236

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Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 10:54 am:   

These goats are infecting your whole pasture and likely they are being infected by the parasites your own goats carry. Giving goats a dewormer by injection is not very effective. The recommendation is to give Ivermectin injectable for Cattle at 1 cc per 25 pounds but give it orally. Give for 3 to 5 days and repeat in 2 weeks. It would have been the red cell count that was low, you can't have a white cell count of 7 but you can have a PVC that is that low. PVC stands for Packed Cell Volume, basicially measures the degree of anemia or amount of red cells. Normal PVC for adult goat is the US is about 34, give or take 4.9 points.

Many vets seriously underdose for worms, they use a dose for sheep or cattle or horses. This may give some improvement for a time as it kills off the most vulnerable parasites but creates resistant parasites that rebound with a vengeance. I would give Ivermactin injectable for Cattle at 1 cc per 25 pounds for 5 days by oral drench, repeat in 2 weeks. Deworm ALL of your goats. For the ones that "look" healthy give the Ivermectin for 2 day and repeat in two weeks. BE ABSOLUTELY SURE TO GIVE ENOUGH. Ivermectin is very safe, for all goats, kids, bucks, pregnant does. You can 100 times the amount and not do any harm. BUT UNDERDOSING MAKES THE PROBLEM WORSE. Give the Nutridrench twice daily to help build the red cells back up. Most goats need to be dewormed 4 to 6 times a year, kids (under 1 year) more often. Get them all off that pasture for 60 to 90 days it is very infected. Be sure to give adequate mineral supplementation at all times. Adequate copper is essential for resistance to parasites. Use a loose mineral mix with 800 to 1500 ppm copper (a beef cattle mix is a good substitute). Do not use any feed or mineral for sheep or sheep and goats. These do not have copper. Giving B Complex once a day by injection or orally helps promote appetite and heal the gut.
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debrabracken (Unregistered Guest)
Posted From: 66.44.240.212

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Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 08:42 am:   

Maggie, I have a similar problem as Michelle. I had a nigerian/pygmy cross approx. 4 mo. old that got weak and refused to eat. We took him to the vet and she said he was full of worms and that his white cell count was only 7. We began a treatment of Perktone, Albon and Nutridrench along with a shot for worms and weekly worming. He began to improve and we put him back with the herd. 1 week later he starting showing symptoms again and we brought him in and began treating again. This time he did not make it. Now I have a young pygmy that is starting to show the same symptoms. We began treating her today but at this point I don't think she will live. I got her along with 2 sisters at the same time and was told they were never wormed and they were and are extremely skinny. They are not putting on weight at all. I have wormed them yesterday and am concerned that this is something that is going to go through my entire herd. What suggestions do you have? Should I get these goats off that pasture, seperate them or what. Do you know of anything else medically that I could give them to help? Thanks for any info you can provide.

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