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Cheryl (Unregistered Guest)
Posted From: 63.17.76.147

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Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 05:03 pm:   

Hi,

Thanks for the info, I am having it cultured, just to be on the safe side.

All my goats I have bought came from private people, no auction babies here. Out of all of our goats only 6 were bought the rest were born here.

I appreciate your information!
Thank you!
Cheryl
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Don (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 11:19 pm:   

As for abscesses caused by CDT vaccine, I just wanted to mention that I had given CDTs that formed a hard abscess and one even ruptured after a short time. I have learned to give the CDT, SQ under the front side next to an armpit as Maggie pointed out. There seems to be ample loose skin there to raise up. Also to go straight thru the raised skin and not at an angle. After injecting I always rub the area afterwards to help disperse the vaccine. Had no more problem with the CDT lumps.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 05:51 pm:   

The abscesses caused by the CDT vaccine is ALWAYS at the site of the injection if they occur. That is why many people use a spot absolutely not associated with CL abscesses (the most common SQ vaccination spot is the armpit or brisket area).

An abscess just under the ear, under the jaw close to the neck, at the base of the neck just in front of and above the point of the shoulder, in the flank just in front of the stifle joint, at the rear of the thigh midway between the stifle joint and the hock and at the top of the rear udder (in the escucheon) are the most common sites for external CL abscesses. CL (Caseous Lymphadenitis) is also called Contagious Abscesses and abscesses both external and internal (they can occur in the lungs, the digestive tract and inside the udder) is the primary symptom. Perhaps you are thinking CAE which causes either encephalitic (nervous) or arthritic symptoms (often swollen knees), not abscesses.

Pus from a CL abscess can be fairly liquid to cheesy looking (caseous means cheesy) and is mostly odorless. Your best bet is to have the pus cultured to know what you are dealing with. CL is fairly common in meat goats as many auction goats were used for embryo transfer implants and to breed to meat type bucks to make percentage goats. Auction animals are often infected or at least exposed to many many diseases. The auction is often used a a dumping ground for culls and diseased animals and they are all mixed together and the facilities are often poorly maintained and hardly cleaned...
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Cheryl (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 05:26 pm:   

Hi, Hope someone has some info to help me out.
I have had 3 does come down with abscesses at totally different times, sometimes months apart. I believe the one doe had them due to her CD/T shot, (which I know is famous for doing this). But the other 2 does, not sure. I currently have a doe (molly) that had an abscess below her ear canal about 2 inches, it ruptured and I cleaned it out completely and now it is healing nicely, but I have noticed right next to the on that ruptured she had another one developing, it was about 3/4 the size of the one that broke open, I am assuming she got them both at about the same time. I am waiting for this second to rupture or be just right to lance.

Any ideas what might be causing this? I looked at CL as a possible, but abscesses aren't consistent with that disease.

The other doe (dolly) had two on her neck just up from her front leg, 1 ruptured then the other one did, but this was almost 8 months ago now. The pus is a creamy white and no foul odor on both does. Nasty though!!! No screw worms, as I know what these are from owning cows ages ago.

Are there flies or bugs that can be causing this? We do have horseflies pretty bad here. I live in Eastern Washington. All my other does/bucks are very healthy and no signs. I have 18 total at the moment.

They are all very active and normal functioning goats. I worm them regularly. They are Boer and Boer Crosses.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

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