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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 649 Registered: 07-2005  Rating: N/A |
I usually just let nature be nature, but it certainly has worked for a good many kids and other animals. Sometimes does kidding together will mother all of the kids interchangably. But getting the timing perfect is a chancy thing. I suupose though if I had had the chance to give my girl a baby I would have tried it. Yes do cut her grain ration way back. Cut it back slowly though, don't be rude and just take it away. I know from hard experience (fat pygmies are what has given pygmies a rep for being poor kidders) that fat does have a very hard time being pregnant giving birth and being good mothers. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Cindy Hance New member Username: chance Post Number: 52 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
That's got to be hard for her and you...I felt so bad for mine poor girl-but since she had him I'd have to say she is way to fat because she doesn't look much different. Think maybe she needs to be cut back. Best of luck with yours next time around-I hope things go well and hopefully she finally get a baby of her own to take care of. If not and this is for my knowledge- if another has twins or triplets at the same time can afterbirth from the goat that loses the baby be put on healthy baby-will they take it that or is that a risky thing possibly having neither of them take it? Cindy | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 647 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Good she is starting to get over it. They are very sad when they are pining for a kid. Had one of my favorites do that for the second time this year (lost her first baby last year) and she really really wants a kid. She keeps having huge singles that I just can't get out alive. I am filling in as best I can and she mothers the heck out of me any chance she gets. Great little milker too. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Cindy Hance New member Username: chance Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
She's been out since she lost him sometimes she would go inside and lay down where she was before she had him, she seemed much better last night. Was walking all over and eating better. Not resting her head against things like she was. Doesn't look as sad... Thanks for all your help. Cindy | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 644 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Put her out with the rest of the herd, the walking around and being with them will help. Hanging around in a stall that smells of baby won't. With my does that lose kids I start milking them and become their kid (the bonding is very similar). They get over it much faster that way. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Cindy Hance New member Username: chance Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Yes thankfully the doe is alive and seems to recovering well. Her vulva swelling seemed to go down a bit already when I looked at it this morning. She doesn't get up except to eat really though, she's so depressed. All that work she did and no baby, it's so sad... Cindy | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 630 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Maybe you could have, maybe not. I have been at births like this from the start and still lost the kid. Pretty much that's how I know how it happens. Don't beat yourself up. I count just getting the kid out without surgery as a victory. At least the doe will recover. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Cindy Hance New member Username: chance Post Number: 49 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Thank you for all the help. I'm so mad and upset with myself - I should have been there 1-2 hours earlier but was so tired from taking care of Kiki and her triplets for 3 nights in a row getting up every 2-2 1/2 hours for them to eat. I didn't see any signs before I went to bed. It just breaks my heart-she is so depressed. I know it's nature but I'm so sad for her-we could have helped and saved the baby if we had known. Thanks again. Cindy | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 628 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Yep it was a hard birth for her when the placenta separates and comes with the baby. Bet the kid was stuck, died while she was birthing and with all the pushing the placenta separated too and everything finally got lined up well enough and came out. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Cindy Hance New member Username: chance Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
The placenta was still attached to the baby's cord when we found him. Could that have caused the death? Cindy | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 625 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Lube up, go in and check to see if you feel baby parts. Any indication she has passed a placenta? The unusual amount of swelling could also be an indication it wasn't an easy birth and explain why the kid was born dead or died during birth. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Cindy Hance New member Username: chance Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Wrote in earlier about mom's dead baby. She looked big enough to have two but just had the one dead. I just went back to check on her and she is dripping clear liquid and her outer lip looks swollen on the inside, it's really puffy and looks somewhat loose unlike all the others. Even ones we've had to go in on for over 30-45 min didn't look like this. My concern would be another baby unborn because of her original size and then the puffiness some sort of infection? I'm going to go take her temp... Cindy |