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     Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.92 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, Thank you so much. I just want her through this. It's so hard on her. What do you think about oatmeal with her feed or milk pellets in it? Should I continue to milk her for her kids. I am taking her kids to her daily. She stays with them and attends to them. But the kids make no attempt to nurse. Tomorrow night it's going down to 33 and I thought that she would need a light blanket to keep her warm. What are you thoughts on this. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 519 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141  Rating: N/A |
She is doing fine on the plan you have outlined. Being so down she is not going to "bounce" back but will take baby steps toward recovery. Raw egg is not a good idea. She needs a steady diet with not much change in it. Every change upsets her rumen microbes. Her digestive system has to heal from all the damage the worms did (they attach to the walls leaving bleeding wounds and scar tissue). This can take quite a while, weeks to months before she is the picture of health. In reality she is improving quite quickly. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 36 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.91 Rating: N/A |
Update on Rockelle. I checked on her this evening when I went to feed. She ate some with the group, which is an improvement. She picked at what I brought for her. I checked the thermometer and it is OK. Her temperature now is 101.2 Her gums and tongue are a definite pink and so is her eyelid, although a pale pink. Her breathing is still heavy and gurgly. The gurgle sounds more in her throat than lungs. I put my ear to her chest and did not hear rattles there. Any suggestions on what to do next. Tomorrow, I'll give her 6 cc of Ivermectin, the geritol AM and PM. I'd like to spark her appetite. Would a blended raw egg help. Should I con't with the probios electrolyte mixture. I'm giving this at the amount recommended for a goat under stress. She seems to me to be improving steadily but is not out of my comfort zone of being overly concerned. Thank you both for your help. | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.90 Rating: N/A |
Rockelle's tongue and gums were ashen and eyelids white. I saw a hint of pink to her eyelids last night, mouth was still white. This morning, her mouth had a hint of pink. She has been through alot! She has been dealing with rattles in her breathing and just kidded triplets 5 days ago. She has just picked at feed. What can I give her to give her the boost she needs. I will discontinue with the penicillin. I'm going over to the farm shortly and will give her more geritol. I will also add milk pellets to her feed and show bloom to give it a boost. | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 41 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.59 Rating: N/A |
What color are her gums and tongue if she is deprived of oxygen they will be from blue to black. Barbara Howard jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 515 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
I would say she doesn't need the penicillin anymore, she shows no real indication of having an infection. Goats can be subnormal, have low fevers or high fevers, just like people. For her she is probably subnormal because she is very anemic. She is oxygen deprived, and it takes oxygen to make body heat. It also takes calories and if she hasn't been eating too well she can be low on energy. For example I fasted one day and by day's end I was one degree below normal (97.7, I am usually textbook normal..). Giving banamine to a goat with a normal temp can also make them subnormal. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 40 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.59 Rating: N/A |
This temp is sub-normal could you check it again and check another goat also. I am concerned with a low body temp alerts a ruminal problem. Barbara Howard jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 34 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 208.60.95.35 Rating: N/A |
If she is indeed subnormal, what should I do? Con't penicillin or stop. I did insert the thermometer over 1.5 inches. But I will check to see if there is a discrepency with the thermometer by checking another goat. Her breathing was good this morning, no rattles, her mouth was closed; but she also was just getting up from lying down- no real activity. Like people, can goats have a low grade fever? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 514 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
Be sure you insert the thermometer far enough, for adults insert it at least 1.5 inches. Her temp is quite subnormal. Try taking the temp on one of the healthy goats for comparison. Most goats in a herd don't vary that much. She could be subnormal because of the anemia and being a bit oxygen deprived. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 208.60.95.35 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, I took Rockelle's temperature this morning before I came into work (6AM) and it was 100.7. Not knowing if this was normal for a morning temp., I gave her penicillin, the Ivermectin and geritol. She was lying down when I found her in the barn. I probably woke her. It's a dreary day and it's raining. Do goats like people have a lower temp when they first wake up? Would the 100.7 be a possible normal temp for her, first thing in the morning? I'll check her temp again this afternooon. The digital thermometer worked really well! The applicator tip is much smaller than the glass and it's probably safer too. She didn't fuss a bit. thanks Maggie! |