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     Sandy (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 216.153.74.25 Rating: N/A |
So glad to hear she's doing well. My thoughts will be with her and your family as she goes through the surgery. Sandy & Kids | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.40 Rating: N/A |
Hi, That is great I wish you luck. Barbara Howard jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 20 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.113 Rating: N/A |
Update on Precious. I found a vet who would see her. Her cleft is incomplete. She is a good candidate for having the cleft repaired. Precious is thriving and growing. She is able to nurse and has begun to nibble on grass. With all this in mind, good candidate for repair and that she is doing so well. I'm going to have the surgery done for her. | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.115 Rating: N/A |
Thank you for your help and advise. I'm thinking that the kindest thing I can do for the baby is to go ahead and put her down so she doesn't suffer. As for Sylvia, I'll continue to message and try to get the milk out as you suggested. Because of your good advice I had gotten earlier, I never use the needle to inject that I draw from the bottle. Maggie Thanks. Releigh is also too far- about 6 hours or more from us. thanks | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 372 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141  Rating: N/A |
Most other drugs are just as painful, oxytet is worse. I find if I use one needle to draw the meds out of the bottle and then change to a new needle it hurts alot less. Just one stick into something substantially dulls the needle making it hurt worse. Try warm compresses and milking her. Frequent milking is the best treatment for mastitis. Do not pinch the teat and pull down to milk, you won't get anything that way and will only damage the teat. To milk properly gently pinch closed the top of the teat in the crook of you hand between thumb and first finger. Then close each finger in succession going down the teat to "push" the milk out. Stroking or massaging the udder may help her let her milk down. There is a vet college in Raleigh NC too, any closer? The vet is right about her prognosis really, even when she drinks water she will be at risk. As she grows it may get worse instead of better. One surgery may not be enough, she may need more as she grows. Her risk of an upper respiratory infection is increased as is a sinus infection. She should never be bred, this could be heritable. I wouldn't do the same breeding again. I would probably give her a chance but not spend any money on trying to close the cleft. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.103 Rating: N/A |
Sylvia screams when I give her penicillin. I inject it SQ, rubbed the area before the injection. I've tried different sites- neck, "arm pit" area, and top of the shoulder. Sylvia has been through so much. Is there any alternative that would be less painful? | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.103 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, This newborn's cleft is larger than I originally thought. The opening runs along the side of the palate by a rough guess 1/3". I milked mom and gave baby a bottle with a pritchard nipple. The nipple goes back past the opening by a 1/2" or more. Baby was shivering and I made a sweater for her using the sleave of an old sweatshirt. I just checked on her when I looked at Sylvia's udder, she is no longer shivering and is beside Sylvia in the shed. Sylvia's effected udder is the same warmth as the good one. Color is a dull pink to pigmented brown. I have tried to enfuse when I could open the teat, but the treatment would not go in the udder, it's too full. I couldn't milk her out either. Any suggestions? We are not near a veterinary medical college. The closest is Georgia and we are in SC. I am calling other vets in the Charleston-Orangeburg area to see if there is anyone who will and can help her. She is such a healthy kid, I'd like to give her the best chance of a good life as possible. The vet just called and said that nothing should be done for her. Another vet that I contacted said that it may close on it's own and that the prognosis for her survival is poor due to aspiration pneumonia. He recommended getting her on grain as soon as possible to avoid her aspirating. With the nipple going back in her mouth past the cleft, wouldn't she be OK? Mom's teat is long and her udder is full and sits low. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 367 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
Milk out the bad side as often as you can, infuse with Today (and intramammary antibiotic you put in through the teat opening). Keep giving penicillin at 1 cc per 20 pounds by SQ injection twice a day. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 366 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
Sounds like gangrenous mastitis in that affected half. Is it cold and dark colored? You can read an article about gangrenous mastitis on the www.saanendaoh.com website. I would not trust a cow vet to operate on a cleft nostril. Are you anywhere near a veterinary college? Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 207.144.116.150 Rating: N/A |
we have a large healthy newborn kid who has a cleft at her nostril. Her hard and soft palates are intact. She is taking nutrition. She is lively and looks great except for the cleft. I've called the vet and could only leave a message to find out if it could be closed. Our vet frankly is a pessimist and applies his knowledge of cows to goats. Can anything be done for her? And another problem is with her mother. She is the doe that I put in earlier that had a respiratory problem and mastitis. The uneffected "good" udder has good milk in it for the kid (thank God). I have messaged the effected udder and it did loosen some, but there are 3 hard spots in it. It is bagging up just like the other udder. Infact it got a split in it and leaked putrid milk. I got as much out of it as I could before it sealed again. I also need advice as to what to do about her udder too. I have given her penicillin for the last 3 days SQ and banamine. |