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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 02:09 pm:   

The thiamin won't hurt her it is just a B vitamin and if she doesn't need it she will just pee it out.

Apply warm compresses to the hard udder and gently milk it out. This is the best treatment for mastitis. Keep her on antibiotics. Lots of does get over mastitis and do fine. But you need to get it milked out and look at the milk to be sure she really has mastitis. Could be she is just engorged and that makes it sore.

Use the milk replacer recipe on the articles page under the heading Kids and Kidding. Those powdered milk replacers taste terrible, nothing like the real thing. Make sure it is very warm when you feed it, a goats body temp is much higher than ours so the milk is much warmer. Sit on the ground hold the kid in your lap close to your body. Holding the bottle in your right hand wrap your right arm around the outside of the kid holding him close. Open his mouth with your left hand and put the nipple in, hold his mouth closed around the nipple. Cover his eyes gently (sometimes a bit of "dark" helps stimulate suckling).

If she is 2 years old you bred her at the right time. Does should kid for the first time between 18 and 24 months old.

Changing her feed a week before kidding was probably not a good idea and by then the fetus has reached full size anyway.
Maggie Leman
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Jean Pass
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 01:40 pm:   

I do not know if she passed the placents. When I went to the barn she already had him and was cleaned up. Vet came and checked inside she said that her cervix was already closed and she couldn't go any further to check! I have tried to start the kid on Lamb milk replacer and he just isn't taking to it, he keeps running back to his mother, I will keep trying to feed him with the bottle, he is running and jumping around, but definately will keep trying!

Her eyes don't twitch, and she just hangs her head, I just came from the barn and she is up walking around and drinking water. Her utter is rock hard just on the right side, and very warm to the touch.

If she doesn't have polio or listerosis will the thiamine hurt her? I don't even know what listerosis is. Need to do more research!!

As far as the feed change, yes, a week before the baby came I took her off feed, and gave very good quality alpha hay. I was afraid that if she ate too much feed that the baby would be too big for her to have. Possibly a STUPID IDEA?? But I have been feeding the same quality hay all along to all of my goats including her.

She weigh's about 150lbs. and is over 2 years old. If this makes a difference, could she have been breed to early?
For future reference, if she makes it, should I sell her because of these problems? The mastitis and all? Will it come back? And what is peracute mastitis?

Maggie, I have a lot to learn and have experienced a lot in the past year with my goats, and appericate all the information that you are willing to give me!! Thank You SO MUCH!!
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   

Did she pass her placenta? Is it possible she still has a kid inside? Her temperature is elevated indicating an infection. Could be from a retained kid. Lube up and feel inside to see if you feel a foot or anything unusual. If you do she needs a vet and probably a c section.

Usually with milk fever the temp is subnormal. I know its called "fever" but that is not correct. If it was milk fever the IV calcium should have brought her right around.

Start the kid on a bottle, there is a good homemade milk replacer recipe on the articles page. A kid can't drink the milk from a doe with mastitis. And she is in no condition to nurse a kid.

Look closely at her eyes, do they twitch? This would tend to indicate goat polio. Is she pulling her head to one side or over her back? This would also indicate polio or listeriosis. If you used the regular formula B Complex you did not give enough thiamin to help nerve function (she may have goat polio, a thiamin deficiency). You need to give 5 mg/pound of thiamin and the regular B Complex only has enough thiamin in each cc to treat 2.5 pounds. Either give alot more or get some Fortified B Complex (which has enough thiamin for 1 cc per 20 pounds) or get straight thiamin from the vet. Give it every 4 to 6 hours for the first day then 2 to 3 times for 5 to 7 more days. Keep her on the penicillin too on the same schedule giving 1 cc per 20 pounds by SQ injection.

Milk her out this is the best way to treat mastitis. Does she really have mastitis or is it just that her bag is tight? Of course this could be the source of her infection.

Did she have a recent feed change? Change of hay?
Maggie Leman
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Jean Pass
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 11:53 am:   

My doe just kidded 2 days ago! The first day she was eating and drinking very good...then slowly decreased. She would stand and stare (star gaze) her body would shake, this morning I checked her and the baby was crying really bad, so i tried to get her up so he could nurse and she just fell over. Had a TEMP of 104.7. She has been treated for Milk Fever..and was concerned because her eyes are still dialated and she is not eating really anything..she was given Vit. B Complex, 50cc calcium, IV, slowly!! Ketofen, and combi-pen 48. She also has mastitis...This is our first baby's and I am REALLY concerned!! Why did this happen...How did this Happen....What Have I Done Wrong!! I am Afraid that she might die! PLEASE HELP!!!

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