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Ellie Mason
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Username: ellie_mason
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 143.212.16.68
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 01:33 pm: | |
Well, against my better judgement, the vet convinced me to go with the gentamicin but I am only giving her 1.5 cc a day. I am leaving town in a week and wanted to get her going on something sooner than later, I would have had to order anything else. I did order some probis gel thinking she may need a boost after all the anti-biotics.
I do have one other question- her urine has been really bright red the last couple days- it scared me the first time I saw it thinking it was blood. I have been giving her 5cc of nutri-drench every few days- could this color be just becuase the urine is super concentrated? or should I be worried about blood? I have seen it a reddish brown but never this bright red. Boy her syptoms sure change fast, her nasal discharge is clearing up and she is eating more but now the urine- this little goat is a fighter.
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Maggie Leman
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Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 194
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 71.111.216.141
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 06:12 pm: | |
Nuflor does seem to be much safer for goats (and all other animals), is more broad spectrum than gentamicin and recommended for respiratory disease and pneumonia, even being effective against mycoplasma pneumonia. It also is by prescription only. You vet can fax a prescription to Valley Vet and they will sell you the drug, info is found on their website with fax numbers. This of course requires a very good working relationship with your vet, some people are blessed and some are not.
Barbara Howard (another of the capri medics) swears by Tylan 200 (tylosin 200 mg/ml) at 1 cc per 20 pounds by SQ injection once a day for 5 to 10 days. You can get Tylan by mail order without a prescription. Tylan may be your best bet, you can get it and injection supplies from Valley Vet (www.valleyvet.com). Tylan does seem to be a painful injection but I have found many of the antibiotics are. Briskly rubbing the site after injection seems to make the sting go away faster.
Maggie Leman
Goat 911 Capri Medic
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Ann Flickinger
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Username: annflickinger
Post Number: 29
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 69.72.23.192
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 05:45 pm: | |
I am going to put my 2 cents in, but wait for Maggie's response to this message for her thoughts. I had a goat that was panting and would not lay down, because he could not breathe and I did research and found Nuflor for cattle. I asked the vet for it and she gave me 2 doses 24 hours a part and one day after the first dose he was very comfortable and not panting anymore. I also read that goats need 3 doses rather than 2, but my goat just had the 2 doses. I don't know if it is very safe for goats, but it helped my goat when nothing else would. I had tried Penecilian, Naxcel and a few others and none of them worked. |
Maggie Leman
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Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 191
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 71.111.216.141
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 04:13 pm: | |
This is a drug of last resort and perhaps appropriate in your case of prolonged respiratory infection. It is not approved for use in goats and has a very long withdrawal period (more than a year). That is probably why it said not to use it in goats. It can damage the kidneys and hearing/balance. The goat really needs to be drinking adequate amounts of water and I think you may have said she isn't.
The recommendation is 4 to 6 mg/kg once a day for cattle, there is no recommended dose for goats. There seems to be 3 different concentrations for injectable gentamicin, 50 mg/ml, 100 mg/ml and 5 mg/ml. A 40 pound goat weighs about 18.5 kg. She needs 74 to 111 mg per day. With the 50 mg/ml the dose would be about 2 cc, for the 100 mg/ml the dose would be about 1 cc, for the 5 mg/ml the dose would be about 18.5 cc. The dose would seem to be very high for a 40 pound goat. I would ask the vet to recheck the dosage before giving it.
Maggie Leman
Goat 911 Capri Medic
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Ellie Mason (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 209.112.178.44
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 03:38 pm: | |
I called my vet and asked him for the naxcel and instead he left Gentamicin with instructions to give her 5ml IM every day for 10 days. I looked up this drug on the web and found one site that said not to use this on goats. I have not been able to get ahold of the vet to see why he chose this drug. Is it safe to use? Plus this dose seemed pretty big for a 40lb goat.
Thanks
Ellie |
Maggie Leman
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Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 181
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 71.111.216.141
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 01:58 pm: | |
I recommend Naxcel, you have to get this from a vet. Give 1 cc twice a day by SQ injection for 7 to 10 days. The green discharge indicates an infection, likely pasteurella.
Maggie Leman
Goat 911 Capri Medic
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Posted From: 143.212.16.68
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 01:10 pm: | |
Hi- My girl is still hanging on but not really any better and now she has thick green nasal discharge and some from her eyes.
I tried the methyl pred again but this time it didn't help. I have been giving her nutri drench every couple of days and some vitamin b12 and also offering her some tidbits of food (oatmeal, shredded carrots, lettuce, broc, raisins) she will pick at it alittle but not much.
I am left wondering how to know when enough is enough. She is still up moving around but has very low energy. I would like to try everythng within reason to help her pull through.
My last idea is to give her some anti-biotics and see if that helps. If you think this may help could you reccommend a type, dosage and length of time to try it. She wieghs only 40 lbs now 
Thanks,
Ellie |
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