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     terry conant (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 170.215.212.47 Rating: N/A |
just wanted to thank maggie and barbra again ,,my goat sores have cleared up,,no more itching,,your info on what to do was right on,,have a great hoilday,, | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.71 Rating: N/A |
Yes you can give the Benadryl at the same time as the Safeguard. Barbara Howard jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 67.50.29.116 Rating: N/A |
thanks for the info barbra,,i have gave her 4 injections of 4 cc of invermectin,so far,,l bought a drenching syringe tonight and plan on using the safe guard tomorrow a;m,,can l give the benadryl same time ?? her sores are concentrated now on her neck and face,,she has rubbed alot of hair off,,but is eating good,,thanks again to you and maggie,,any info is most helpful | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.48 Rating: N/A |
This doe has Menningeal worm. One of the first symptoms you see is the goat chewing raw patches to the blood on her skin. I have had this many times. Do this as soon as possible. Give 1cc/25 lbs. of injectable Ivomec orally once a day for 3 days. Next give 8cc/100 lbs. of Safeguard orally once a day for 5 days. Give her 6cc of liquid children's Benadryl orally twice a day for itching for 5 days. Barbara Howard jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 130 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.205.236 Rating: N/A |
To drench is to give a medication orally. I use a big syringe or a special drenching gun, which is essentially a big syringe with a special metal tip on it. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| terry conant (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 170.215.211.40 Rating: N/A |
l will give the fourth injection today of the ivermectin,l have been putting the zinc oxide salve on,,,l'm not sure how to drench with the safeguard,,could l get a few pointers,,,,l'm not sure if l see any improvement yet or not,,,thanks for all your help,,, | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 128 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 64.102.64.115 Rating: N/A |
Let us know what happens. I had a doe that used to get hard, scabby, thick skinned places on her thighs every year after kidding and nursing. Her problem was zinc and copper deficiency (she was a highly line bred doe and this problem runs in that line). But she didn't itch at all. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| terry conant (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 170.215.212.61 Rating: N/A |
once again thanks for the info,l'll put it right into action | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 126 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.205.236 Rating: N/A |
Bit late in the year for chiggers, scabies is thought to be eradicated in the US. But there are other types of mange. Ivermectin or the synergized delice should take care of them. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Sandi Scott New member Username: sarasotasandi Post Number: 6 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.50.251.101 Rating: N/A |
Would chiggers or scabies cause something like this? The treatment would probably be the same - just wondering. | ||
| terry conant (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 170.215.212.6 Rating: N/A |
my alpine doe has chewed,rubbed and dug patches of hair down to fist size raw bloodly skin on her neck ,front shoulders,,lve have put louse powder on her on occassion,,l'm using itch ointment,iodine and a&d salve on the open sores,now,,any advice,,my other 4 goats seem fine no excessive itching like the alpine | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 64.102.64.115 Rating: N/A |
Is she showing any signs of weakness or paralysis? Do the raw spots run in a vertical line? These could be deerworm migrating along a nerve path. Try deworming with Ivermectin Injectable for Cattle at 1 cc per 25 pounds for 3 to 5 days, then Safeguard drench for cattle at 1 cc per 10 pounds for 3 to 5 days. For better results in controlling lice and mites that could be causing mange use a synergized delice pour on and treat once a week for at least 3 weeks. Skin lesions can also be due to a zinc deficiency. Try using a zinc oxide ointment (baby diaper rash ointment), the iodine will be very irritating to open sores and may cause more itch than it helps. And be sure to use a loose mineral mix with 3000 to 4000 ppm zinc. Goat don't do well using a solid block. Copper deficiency can also cause skin problems, I try to use a mineral with 900 to 1200 ppm copper. If your feed or mineral is labeled for sheep and goats it won't have enough copper for your goats. | ||
| terry conant (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 170.215.214.101 Rating: N/A |
can ivermectin and safeguard drench be bought at a tractor supply ???,,l have one in town near where l live ,, and yes most sores seem to be vertical,,how about the delouse you mention ,is that over the counter so to speak??,,l will quit the iodine now,,l was afraid of infection,,thanks you for all the info,, | ||
| nancy krogh New member Username: bluebird_farm Post Number: 5 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 129.71.94.254 Rating: N/A |
I have never heard of deer worm causing this type of skin problem, if you are meaning the menengial worm that is carried by deer and affects ruminants ie, goats-sheep-llamas. just my 2 cents. hope you find a cure! Bluebird Farm tennessee fainters Blue rock, West virginia | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 123 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.205.236 Rating: N/A |
If the goat is otherwise fine, no paralysis, I would more suspect mange or a zinc deficiency. The Safeguard, Ivermectin and Synergised Delice may be carried by Tractor Supply or you can order online from Valley Vet or Jeffers. If the deerworm (or meningeal worm) migrates towards the spine along a nerve that is close to the skin surface it can cause intense itching and irritation (reference Goat Medicine by Smith and Sherman). Doesn't always happen when the goat is infected with deerworm but it does sometimes. Just want to cover all the bases, just in case it is deerworm. It is most easily treated BEFORE it reaches the spinal cord. The ivermectin is also pretty effective against lice and mange mites when given orally (for treating lice and mange mites it is better to inject it or use a pour on, but then it is less effective against deerworm and other internal parasites). The Safeguard is also effective against deerworm just in case the worm is resistant to ivermectin. And the Synergized Delice just in case the Ivermectin doesn't get the little buggers. Zinc oxide is good for most skin cruddies and owwies. Pretty much a shotgun treatment, any or all may help but none should do any harm. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic |