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Maggie Leman
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Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 1743
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 71.111.242.73
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 02:03 pm: | |
You can very easily go overboard on copper! And the only sign of copper toxicity is a bunch of dead goats. Adding more corn could bump up the phosphorus, bringing it more into line with the recomendation.
Maggie Leman
Goat 911 Capri Medic
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Alex Cripps
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Username: hazydaynubians
Post Number: 95
Registered: 10-2006
Posted From: 142.167.11.217
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 12:30 pm: | |
Don, I would suggest feeding a 16-19% dairy ration even to meat goats it grows them faster and healthy but best of all you don't need to worry about what % you need to get into them!!! I also feed pine/ever green trees and salt lick plus minerals!! And i haven't has any sick does at all!!! Just 1 case of bloat in a boer doe! Darn thing got out and ate a huge amount of feed
Alex Cripps
Hazy Day Nubians
raising Nubians, Boers, Indian Runner Ducks
www.hazydaynubians.piczo.com
Apohaqui New Brunswick Canada
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Don S.
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Username: don_s
Post Number: 13
Registered: 01-2007
Posted From: 172.132.147.29
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 11:16 am: | |
Since were on the subject of minerals, I have a few questions perhaps can help me answer.
First of all I realize the ideal ratio 2:1 Ca Phos. But I am feeding a 20% protein with a 4:1 Ca/phos ratio (Ca average 2%, phos .50%). Is this ratio good or bad for my pregnant does and the buckaroo? If I supplement with corn, would that bump up the phosphorus side of the ratio?
About the copper element... To assure the goats have enough copper, would it be beneficial to disolve a bit of copper chelate in their drinking water? That stuff is found in garden section of some stores. Also some ag/feed stores sell it, perhaps as bulk, for pond maintenance.
I found this good article on the many benefits of copper, an important one being that it fights parasites. It sort of gets off into left field on how to create a copper solution, but I think it does well about explaining the benefits.
http://users.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/copper.html |
Gary Pfalzbot
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Username: admin
Post Number: 113
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 67.142.130.44
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 10:48 am: | |
I use soft range blocks from Purina that run about $6.00 and used to use a 16% block from Ragland when we lived back in Missouri. I'm sure there are other variants on these type of blocks. These have worked out better for me in the longrun since no loose minerals will be wasted (unless you have a minerla feeder). These are soft enough to not hurt their teeth like the hard trace mineral blocks do.
Best regards, GP
Gary Pfalzbot, GoatWorld
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Don S.
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Username: don_s
Post Number: 12
Registered: 01-2007
Posted From: 172.132.147.29
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 10:47 am: | |
If I am correct your zip is 33853. There suppose to be a Sweetlix dealer about 30 miles from you.
Cargill/Nutrena
1845 Avenue A
Kissimmee, FL., 34741
Phone: 407-846-4169
May be a bit far distance to go just for a few bags of mineral. Maybe you could call them and find out if they stock the 16:8 Meat MakerŪ(987)or can order it for you. Maybe they have a dropoff point near your city. |
Dwight & Kathy Currie
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Username: crookedtreefarm
Post Number: 31
Registered: 08-2006
Posted From: 209.221.50.140
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 09:22 pm: | |
Custom Milling in Davisboro Georgia makes Golden Blend Goat Minerals. They were recommended to us by the owner of the farm where we bought our kiko/Boer herd buck. He had beautiful goats and we took his advice, and have had good results. We have been feeding them free choice for about a year now and have had no deficiency problems. We have 41 at last count and all are fat and sassy. They have quite a few Florida dealers listed on their website. <www.custommilling.com>
Good luck
Dwight |
Maggie Leman
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Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 1739
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 71.111.242.73
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 12:46 pm: | |
Try looking into a loose beef cattle mineral, they often make a good substitute. Cattle also need a 2:1 calcium to phosphorus level and a good deal of copper...
Maggie Leman
Goat 911 Capri Medic
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Barrett Chandley
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Username: barrett
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2006
Posted From: 72.77.171.212
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 05:45 pm: | |
Does anyone have a suggestion for a good pasture mineral. I know you are supposed to use a 2:1 Ca:P ratio like SweetLix but the problem is I cannot find a dealer in my area. All the other minerals I have looked at do not have this ratio.
I looked at Jeffers but the shipping to Florida was almost as much as the mineral. Any suggestions would be appreciated. |
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