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     Elaine Elder New member Username: elaine Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.152.162.89 Rating: N/A |
My vet had me give benedryl to a cat with bee stings. And I have given it to a dog for wasp stings. The dog - I gave the liquid child dose 2 times a day, he was about 50 lbs. The cat, I emptied one capsule into his tuna 2 times a day for three days, he weighed 10 lbs. The pharmacist told me that a healthy adult human can take 6 benedryl capsules at one time with no adverse reaction. The dosage on the bottle is 1 or 2, I would start there. Benedryl would probably not hurt, but, I have never given benedryl to a goat. | ||
| Theresa Chandler New member Username: tchandler6 Post Number: 114 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 207.69.137.10 Rating: N/A |
Is there a reason these babies are itching or scratching themselves with their mouths and feet so much? Could this be a reaction to something that was given? If so, what is something that will counteract? Benedryl, maybe? I don't want to give it unless I have too because I don't want to make them real groggy. I'm sorry to be so overreactive, but I want to make sure I am doing everything there is to be done to make them comfortable and healthy. Thanks for all your help. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1711 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253  Rating: N/A |
CD antitoxin doesn't work that quickly it was likely something else you gave or just realizing he wasn't going to be eaten and he calmed down. I'm with Gary on teh numbness in his leg, they nearly all get over it in a short while. You can give the epi SQ it won't work quite as fast maybe take a minute or two more time but you don't have to worry about hitting a nerve either, especially on a kid with little muscles. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Gary Pfalzbot Board Administrator Username: admin Post Number: 102 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.142.130.26  Rating: N/A |
Theresa, in most instances if the goat comes up lame after a shot, it will most likely get better with time. What I would recommend is massaging the leg as often as you can to try and work out the difficulty and get feeling back in the leg. Chances are the leg has some numbness in it rather than pain. Every goat I've ever treated that had this problem usually rebounded in a few days. I can't think of one that didn't. As per the other goat you said that is a bit off, I'm not sure about the red tail part you mentioned. His skin pigmentation may be that way naturally as it can vary from goat to goat. Chances are he was just traumatized more than the other goats in a different way that going straight into shock. I think at this point unless anyone else has other reasons to believe differently, I'd just watch him for the next day or so and see if he gets better on his own. The one thing you may wan to do differently with this goat is to baby him more with food...a goat mulling over his trauma can often be nudged out of it with food. Please keep us posted. Best regards, GP Gary Pfalzbot, GoatWorld | ||
| Theresa Chandler New member Username: tchandler6 Post Number: 112 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 207.69.137.34 Rating: N/A |
My baby is doing well this morning with the bad foot. Do you think that if it was caused from hitting a nerve that it will heal in a few days, or could it be a permanent damage? Also, the other little guy that wasn't acting just right afterwards has really pinkish red skin pigmentation on his tailweb and even down under his belly where his teets are, more so than my other babies. Thought maybe he had a fever, but took it and his temp is 103.4 Is this normal skin coloring for a 13 day old or is this a sign of something? Both kids got up and nursed well everytime I went out during the night to check on them; but this one is still just not as active as he should be. I gave him a dose of banamine for any pain or discomfort and tried an enema, with no results. Thanks, Theresa | ||
| theresa (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 63.27.166.144 Rating: N/A |
theresa i have dehorned my baby for 3 years as soon as i can feel the horn on top for the head that way you do not have to burn them very long.n be for i dhorn them they got a shot of 2 cc thiamine hydrochloride this is a b shot that help with the stress of dhorning i all way give them 3cc tetaus antitoxin and spary the spot with furall topical antibacterial for the little one with the leg problem i would use liniment like bigeioil it for pain and siffness or strain i hope this help theresa wittig | ||
| Theresa Chandler New member Username: tchandler6 Post Number: 110 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 207.69.137.13 Rating: N/A |
One more thing I wanted to ask is this: The first little guy was doing alot of screaming, and I gave him 3 cc's of CD antitoxin, this really seemed to make him feel better. After about a half hour or so, he calmed down and went to sleep. So as a precautionary I gave the other ones a dose of CD antitoxin. Could the stress of the disbudding somehow have caused them to get a case of enterotoxemia? I had given him lots of other meds, also, so can't be 100% sure that it was the antitoxin that made such a difference, but it sure seemed to me that after that dose is when he really calmed down and started feeling better. I plan on giving them all a 2nd dose after about 6 hours from the first. Do you see any reason that I should not? Thanks again, Theresa | ||
| Theresa Chandler New member Username: tchandler6 Post Number: 109 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 207.69.137.13 Rating: N/A |
Gary, Yes, I did give the epinephrine in that particular leg. That was kind of what I was thinking that I may have hit a nerve or something, this was the first time I have ever had to use the epinephrine, gave it in such a hurry, didn't take the time to see if it was to be given IM or SQ. or where to give it. It did save his life, though. Do you think he will be ok on that foot and it will heal ok? Where is the proper place for epinephrine shots? I have tried banding horns a couple times, hated the turnout, and have NEVER like I mentioned had any problems whatsoever with dishorning. Still at a loss what could have went soooo wrong this particular time. Thanks, Theresa | ||
| Gary Pfalzbot Board Administrator Username: admin Post Number: 100 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.142.130.26 Rating: N/A |
Theresa, when you administered the epinephrine, dio you give it in the leg that he suddenly has no use of? If so, could be you hit a nerve or real tender area. Personally I don't use dehorning irons or cutters or OB wire unless of course the horns are so big they need it...I use castration bands on the horns because it is alot easier on them and just about as effective. Best regards, GP Gary Pfalzbot, GoatWorld | ||
| Theresa Chandler New member Username: tchandler6 Post Number: 108 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 207.69.137.13 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, My husband dehorned 4 of my fb bucklings tonight with terrible results. He has been dehorning my goats for over 10 years, and NEVER has anything like this happened before. One of the 4 went into shock immediately after dehorning, so I administered epinephrine, brought him back, threw the medicine cabinet at him, just put him back with mom, and he nursed hungrily, this is good, but he now has no use of his left back foot. The heel is bending under as though he has no feeling in it. Before the dehorning he was fine in all ways. These kids are big healthy, 12 day olds. Another of the 4 is now not acting right. About 2 hours later. He was fine immediately after dehorning, he was the last of the 4 that my husband did, so he definitely DID NOT even leave the burners on at all too long, because he was so upset over the first baby reacting the way he did. Breathing very roughly, and eyes are running. So I have threw the cabinet at him, giving him the same things that I gave the first kid. I have to say we are both VERY disturbed by this whole thing. We are afraid to even do anymore now, after having done this for many years. The 2 that had the problems were out of triplets. We have never went by the sign of the moon or anything, does anyone have any idea what could have went so desperately wrong? I called my vet, he assisted me in what to do, said they probably got too hot upon dehorning, which is what sent the first guy into shock, he doesn't know about kid #2. We just done 10 other little ones last Saturday, with absolutely NO problems. We are just stumped on this one. Please help us figure this out for future dehornings. |