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     Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.98.36.195 Rating: N/A |
It is the pig injectable.I'll start that today.Should I continue the B vits? What would you recommend I do about the CDT shot, since I didn't follow up with a booster. Thank you so much for your help!! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1709 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253  Rating: N/A |
It does sound like the doe has a severe worm load. The crusty substance around her tail is likely left over discharge from her being in heat. If the Anem-x is the injectable for pigs use 1-2 cc dose once a week for 3 to 4 weeks to get her iron back up, since I don't know about giving it SQ go IM like the directions say. I have recently learned that injectable iron works better for goats with severe anemia than giving iron orally. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 64.50.228.37 Rating: N/A |
I have been trying to post all night- having probs with the dial-up. Her eyes are white with a purple-ish tinge.I ended up giving her 7cc of the Valbazen orally,3ml B-comp sub-q,10g pro-bios,and 1oz Nutridrench. I tried to take her temp but I couldn't hold her and the thermometer at the same time, so I don't know about the fever.I will try to find a neighbor to help me tomorrow. It felt like she has a discharge of some kind. There was a crusty substance around the edge of her tail. She doesn't have diarrhea. The little fellows eye membranes are a nice red. I couldn't get his temp either, so I gave him some of the b-comp(2ml) and the nutridrench(1/2 oz) for good measure. They are still off their feed though. I have Anem-x, but I have never used it and didn't know what the dose was...and I figured she had endured enough for one night.Did I miss anything? They are drinking just fine, and took a bit of hay when I held it.Let me know what you think.} | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1706 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Penicillin is okay but if you can get Tylan 200 it may work alot better if she has pneumonia. the dose for that is 1 cc per 20 pounds by SQ injection once a day. Get a thermometer, the digital ones work great. Be sure to insert it at least 1.5 inches into her rectum to get an accurate reading. Normal is 101.5 to 103.5, anything below 101 indicates a ruminal (digestive) problem anything 104 or over indicates an infection. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Elaine Elder New member Username: elaine Post Number: 49 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.152.162.89 Rating: N/A |
I have never seen one "puff up" Keep checking back here for more advice. The vitamin B is good for a lot of goat ailments. And what the body doesn't need will pass through the system without doing any harm. In all my goats that have gotten sick no matter what the initial problem was, the rumen gets upset and they need the good bacteria put back into their stomach. It seems like once they show any symptom of anything (My experience) no matter what they have, either what they got first (Goat Polio) or The cure (Antibiotics for infections) messes up their system and their whole metabolic process gets out of whack and I end up giving Vitamin B and probios in the end to get them back to normal. Make sure you give enough Vitamin B, too little won't do any good. The Nutri-drench is good too. I do not know what your goat has. I googled the symptoms and did not find anything. Please keep checking back here. Try to get a Thermometer, the temp and eyelid color can tell a lot. | ||
| Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.98.36.195 Rating: N/A |
I will be getting home at about 7:30 pm central time.Yes it was Valbazen. I had been using ivermectin, but it didn't seem to be effective any more. It looked like she had puffed out all over, not just her face. Her coat is not smooth and full like it had been..the little Nigerian wether's coat is similar, but he doesn't look any bigger. He actually looks thinner. I thought it was a change due to the cold, but my son pointed out that she looks really huge,almost pregnant, odd since they are off their feed.I have the valbazen at home, and fortified b but no penicillin. What should I get? I will try to log in again before I leave for home.Thank you both so very much for your help! | ||
| Elaine Elder New member Username: elaine Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.152.162.89 Rating: N/A |
My post hit after Maggie's. Follow her advice on the worms. I did not realize a test would be wrong. | ||
| Elaine Elder New member Username: elaine Post Number: 46 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.152.162.89 Rating: N/A |
Get a digital thermometer from a drug store, usually $10. They are the easiest to use. Find out what her temp is. Check her lower eyelids. Are they pale pink? Get some vitamin B Complex injectable from feed store, get some shots going under the skin. 100mg is best but get the other if that's all they have. See if the feed store has Probios. If not get something for horses that restores the natural balance of enzymes in the gut. Keep up the Nutri-drench. The dosage for Vitamin B ... If it is this one - COMPOSITON: Each mL of sterile aqueous solution contains: Thiamine Hydrochloride (B1) 100 mg you can give 1 cc per 20 pounds every 4 to 6 hours for the first 24 hours then 2 to 3 times a day for 5 to 7 more days.. If it is this one - COMPOSITION: Each mL of sterile aqueous solution contains: Thiamine Hydrochloride (B1) 12.5 mg you need to give 1 cc per 3 pounds every 4 to 6 hours for the first 24 hours then 2 to 3 times a day for 5 to 7 more days. I am not sure on the wormer you used. I don't recognize the brand. You may need to use Ivomec. But if you had a test a month ago - I don't think that is enough time for an infestation to get her down this fast. Keep checking here. Some one with more experience than me will post something to do if I am wrong. If this were my goat, this is where I would start. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1701 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Check the mucus membranes of her lower inner eyelids, they should be deep reddish pink. if they are pale or white she is anemic from worms. Check her temp, anything over 104 is a fever. Is her face actually swollen or is it just ehr hair standing out? If she is actually swollen especially in the face, legs or bely this could be severe anemia and the eyelid membranes will show that. If her hair is standing out that often indicates a fever and an infection, such as pneumonia. Sometimes with pheumonia the only symptoms are a fever and a goat that is reluctant to eat and doesn't want to move or lay down. Sounds like you dewormed with valbazen, do you remember how much you gave per pound? There is now alot of resistance to this drug too. The correct dose should be 1 cc per 10 pounds. If the fecal test was done within 2 weeks of deworming it may not have been accurate. And depending on the care the vet took examining the feces it can be very inaccurate. Get back to me when you can. Try to be prepared to treat for worms, polio (do you have fortified B complex?) or pneumonia. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 13 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 192.236.21.12 Rating: N/A |
My 2 year old Pygmy doe is not eating her grain (and hasn't been eating as much hay as usual for the past week or so), doesn't want to go outside, and is swollen looking. She is also standing in the corner of the stall and just staring at the wall- but not leaning. Her sister did the same thing and died shortly afterwards.She had her CDT shot 2 months ago, but I forgot to give the booster.She was wormed with Val-something..I'm at work and don't have the info here. I had a test done a month ago to check for worms and she was clean. My other goat is fine so far. I don't know if she has a fever or not. We are in the middle of a cold snap, and they stayed inside all day on Monday due to the weather. The bedding is sawdust and straw, and I use Barnfresh -a microbial spray that eats up the bacteria that causes smell- so the stall doesn't smell badly and I keep it clean.FResh water daily, fresh hay, 1 cup grain mix am and pm. Berries are firm, has been urinating as far as I can tell. Help!! I am so worried. I tried to give her Goat Nutri-drench beforre I left for work. I may have gotten a tsp. in. The little goat got 1 oz. |