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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1695 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253  Rating: N/A |
Yes both are excellent. So is BOSS (black oil sunflower seeds). Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Elaine Elder New member Username: elaine Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.152.162.89 Rating: N/A |
Maggie... I had a horse that was severely mal-nourished. The vet had me give her Beet Pulp as a supplement. You can get it at most feed stores. You mix equal parts beet pulp and water. let stand 10 minutes for the water to be absorbed. It is sweet and horses love it. I also supplement my goats regular goat feed with Triple Crown Senior for horses when it goes below 30 degrees, just to give them a little more calories to fight the cold. I have done this 2 winters with no adverse effects. It has beet pulp, alfalfa, and other easily digestable ingredients designed for the older horse to be able to absorb the nutrients quickly and easily. Would one of these be good for goats having trouble getting enough calories? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1685 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
She may need alfalfa hay or more grain, increase it slowly. She really IS eating for three goats now. She does have some ability to cut you off too if she doesn't want you taking erh milk. A rush of adrenaline will inhibit milk let down (like when you layed her down on her side, a totally unnatural position for a goat). Check the kids, are they after her constantly trying to nurse? Do they have full bellies? Are they playful and active? If so thy are nursing enough. If the weather is decent let them out for the day, being active helps the digestive system and muscles. the doe will recover faster too. Try getting the kids on supplemental bottles twice a day, both you and the doe can feed them that way. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Tina M Aden New member Username: tinaaden Post Number: 24 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.114.201.71  Rating: N/A |
Our doe eats fresh grass hay and grazes in the field, a small amount of goat chow and Purina minerals. She has plenty of water and has been in her kidding pen for three days. She felt like she had more milk before she kidded but now I am just not sure. Could it be possible that they are nursing when I am not looking? What I just did was, I layed her down and tried to milk a little and the first few times there was nothing, then a few really good squirts and then nothing. Is there something to help mama bring down her milk? Tina M Aden | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 68.114.201.71 Rating: N/A |
Our doe eats fresh grass hay and grazes in the field, a small amount of goat chow and Purina minerals. She has plenty of water and has been in her kidding pen for three days. She felt like she had more milk before she kidded but now I am just not sure. Could it be possible that they are nursing when I am not looking? What I just did was, I layed her down and tried to milk a little and the first few times there was nothing, then a few really good squirts and then nothing. Is there something to help mama bring down her milk? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1684 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Looks like you have a bottle baby then. You can try just supplementing her and leave her with mom. The does milk may star to come in better in a day or two, but until then you may have to help fed the kids. Use the formula on the Goatworld articles page. What is the doe's condition? What is her diet? What was her diet up to the time she kidded? Brand new kids should not be able to nurse a doe dry. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 68.114.201.71 Rating: N/A |
mama does not have hardly any milk. I am not sure if they have nursed her dry but there is none now and the little girl is hungry. Mama's utter is very small, when I aqueeze it, some milk comes out and it is white, but very little. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1676 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Sometimes they just need to be warmed up too to act normal and nurse. Check her temp, be sure it is at least 101, give the colostrum supplement (most do not have good antibodies though and some even say they don't contain ANY antibodies), maybe a cc or 2 of karo syrup to raise her blood sugar, get her warmed up and help her nurse her dam. Banking your own herd's colostrum is better than ANYTHING you can buy. When kids are 18 hours old you can milk any remaining colostrum from the dams and save it. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.147.239.223 Rating: N/A |
Go ahead and give her the colostrum. It isn't too late. Also it probably needs a dose of Bo-Se. About 1/2 cc will do fine. The thing is it takes Bo-Se about a week or so to work. Go ahead and give it to her as soon as possible. It is by prescription only though. Keep an eye on her and make sure she is nursing or go ahead and just keep her on the bottle. Dawn | ||
| Tina M Aden New member Username: tinaaden Post Number: 23 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.114.201.71 Rating: N/A |
We have two new kids this evening. One id jumping and active, the other is not responding well. Seems weak, she can walk but I do not think she has nursed very much at all. They are one hour old. I have colostrum in a tube. Should I give it now or wait to see if mama will get her to nurse. Mama is trying hard. I do not want her to get any weaker. Tina M Aden |