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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1705 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253  Rating: N/A |
Can't really hurt to treat her now, just in case it is a uterine infection. And if she has a low grade bladder infection it should help that too. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Mary Mercer New member Username: mary Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 71.111.211.65 Rating: N/A |
When she was at the vet school, they checked her over (October), so she's good (except for the mass). They looked at her lids and said she wasn't anemic or anything. They said since she's an only child (not around other goats) she probably doesn't need to be dewormed. I honestly think the problem is as you first stated - the mass is preventing her from emptying her bladder completely (the guy at the farm supply store deducted the same thing) which sets her up for repeated infections. As I said, Sunday she had the bloody discharge, but nothing since then and she seems to be feeling well again (she was a little lethargic Sunday). So, do you think I should go with your first plan (penicillin) or attack it a different way. And do you think I should wait until she has another "attack" before I start treatment? Please let me know what your thoughts are. Thanks! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1692 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Did you check for parasites? Do a fecal exam? When was she last dewormed? Look at her mucus membranes on her lower inner eyelid, they should be a deep redish pink. If they are pale or white she is anemic and this could account for her being ill... Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1691 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Do not use oral antibiotics on ruminants, it often kills the vital rumen and intestinal microbes. And if that doesn't happen those same microbes jusr digest it like so much extra food. I would use the oxytet and yes I would start it now. She may only have a discharge during her heat cycle (when the cervix is slightly open, ast other times it is tightly closed) and these typically last 12 to 36 hours. Its usually a short time with older goats. If the measurement is anywhere near correct for the growth on her bladder it is 1/10 of an inch big. If you meant 5 cm it is almost 2 inches.... Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Mary Mercer New member Username: mary Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 129.33.49.251 Rating: N/A |
You know, Maggie, I'm just not sure. This just started happening in October 2006. She was very sick (shivering, down, temperature BELOW normal). That's when she was diagnosed with a .5cm (?) mass on her bladder by the vet school. But, you could be right about her being in heat, too, because I saw blood and mucus Sunday morning but no signs of it since then. I purchased Pennicilin last night, but haven't started on it yet (was going to start today). Hopefully you can answer the following questions: *Should I start the anti-biotics now, even though I haven't seen any signs of trouble since Sunday? *Should I use the LA 200 instead of pennicilin? *The feed store said they had anti-biotics you could put in their food. Would that be something I should do long term? She seems to be fairly normal otherwise (well, as normal as she can be :-). Unfortunately, I am just not familiar with treating my pets, but since I am starting to "acquire" more pets, I've decided it's in my best interest to take more of a role in their health care. Thanks again for all of your help! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1678 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Could this be happening when she is coming into heat? A doe will urinate very frequently when she is in heat and sometimes this is the only sign she is in. If they have a chronic uterine infection you will often see blood and mucus at this time. It passes when they urinate. I have had better luck treating a chronic unterine infection using LA 200 (oxytetracycline) given by SQ injection once a day at 1 cc per 30 pounds for 10 full days. You can get this at the feed store too. Do not give penicillin and oxytet at teh same time they cancel each other out. The oxytet should be effective for a bladder infection too... Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Mary Mercer New member Username: mary Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 129.33.49.251 Rating: N/A |
Thank you, Maggie! That makes perfect sense. I will give that a try. She seems happy and is doing well otherwise. Glad to hear it's not the end!! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1671 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 72.185.188.253 Rating: N/A |
Only you can judge when her quality of life is not good enough to go on. It appears this condition will keep returning. You can go to any livestock supply store and get pennicillin, syringes and needles which if given twice a day at 1 cc per 20 pounds by SQ injection for at least 5 days will help clear the infection the growth is causing her to get. It is likely she can't fully empty her bladder due to the growth, setting her up for chronic or repeated bladder infections. If you have ever had a bladder infection you know what she is going through. Treating her quickly will help with the discomfort of the infection. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Mary Mercer New member Username: mary Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 129.33.49.251 Rating: N/A |
I have a 10 year old female Boer goat who has been our pet for most of that time. A couple months ago, she was very sick and was down. She was trying to urinate frequently and had blood coming out. I took her to the NC State Vet School and they found a growth on her bladder. They wanted to do a biopsy, but I didn't want to put her through that since the outcome would probably not be positive (her urine showed no signs of infection). The Doctor told us not to bring her home if children were involved, but the intern said we could try antibiotics. We administered the antibiotics for two weeks and she seemed much better, but still was trying to urinate more frequently than usual. About a month later the blood and mucous discharge started again, so the intern was kind enough to give me more antibiotics and we gave her twice the dose two times a day for one week. Again, she seemed better. It's been about another month and we're seeing the same thing - blood and mucous discharge when trying to urinate. Is it time to take the doctor's advice and put her out of her misery? I sure hope not, but would appreciate any insight. |