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     Don S. New member Username: don_s Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 172.131.30.93 Rating: N/A |
Hi Mark. I noticed that goats of a herd seem to have their rank. Sometimes two does will get into a challanging head butting match. I separate them but they seem to find each other and go at it again. Not sure what triggers this. Thinking it is body producing a variable hormone output. A couple of the does seem extra mean to the others. This is in the genetics I belive. Sometimes when a doe is behaving mean and crazy towards the other and disrupting the herd at the hay bin, I will flip her off her legs to upside down on the ground and hold her by her horns in that position so she cannot get up. Seeing the other goats stepping around her head and upside down puts a fright into her. After about 3 minutes, I let her get up. Usually this will change her disposition and she will act more socialable towards the others. | ||
| Alex Cripps New member Username: hazydaynubians Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 142.167.16.71  Rating: N/A |
I would say that is going to be the next herd queen if she has horns and no others there is only ways 1 sell her 2 put a band on her and let her horns fall off. I know that most boer breeders keep horns on goats but we have them and dissbud them to it saves finding a doe dead cuz of another doe. I would say that your doe is crazy! if they do that let her out and try to get in and then when shes crazy throw a cold bucket of water on them it will make them stop or yell their name (if they know it ) i had a doe like this and to stop her i would get a thin tree (no more bigger then a pencil) and swing it back if the air and make a whip sound it freaks them out. Never hit them unless you have to get them away from you Example a doe and buck in heat he bred her 2 or 3 times and you said ok you go in and get her he stands on 2 legs you hit him on his side hard and he will go away (only use htis as a last thing) Alex Cripps Hazy Day Nubians raising Nubians, Boers, Indian Runner Ducks www.hazydaynubians.piczo.com Apohaqui New Brunswick Canada | ||
| Tristan Duke New member Username: tristan Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 208.180.47.8 Rating: N/A |
Reminds me of the school yard bully who won't pick on kids his own size. That bully looks tuff never the less and the other kids don't challenge him or her. Its a possibility that doe is establishing her power. The lowest doe on my farm was a polled Nubian, she was sweet and gentle. The top doe would take out all of her agression on her to the point of almost starving her to death. Keep your eye on her and make sure she is getting to eat drink and have shelter. I had to let mine go, I couldnt stand to watch her be a punching bag on a weekly basis. | ||
| Mark Lee New member Username: mark_lee Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 207.200.116.133 Rating: N/A |
We just has a very wierd situation happen that was unprecedented for us. Wednesday we took the old dominant nanny to market (it was definitely her time to go  That evening, one of the lowest young does on the totem pole managed to have gotten her horns stuck in the feeder, and one of the big does was butting her for all she was worth. We put the little doe into a stall, and later on found the same big doe literally enraged and trying to tear down the panel to get to her --- eyes dialated, jugular pulsing, snorting and butting like mad, even going from the panel over to the door to try a different angle. We then penned her in a stall of her own where she couldn't see the other one overnight. Next day, we let her out (but not the little one, she was still pretty sore and limping), and she then proceeded to get into more regular dominance games with 2 of other big goats --- which was what we had expected. (Standing on hindfeet, pushing,pushing, quick head-butts but no knock-down-drag-outs.) Let the small one out yesterday and everyone seems to be getting along OK again. I've seen chickens try to kill a low caste bird that was in distress, but never seen the goats do anything like that. The only other explanation, other than that we had upset the social structure by taking away the old dominant doe, is that everyone is within a couple weeks of kidding, and being somewhat hormonal and territorial. That, or the weather was changing, wiht a zero-degree cold front coming in within a day. My mother in law thinks the doe just went crazy.... but she's (the doe) has always been pretty mellow, a boer-nubian cross who we've even broken to milk. Any other thoughts? Mark |