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Amanda Scanlan
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 04:15 pm:   

Thank you Maggie. I'm pretty sure she is suffering from a worms. I'm keeping plenty of hay and water for her. I did give her ferrodex Sunday afternoon, will wait and dose her again next Sunday.
I do give mineral free choice, but I'm guessing, like you said, that she didn't have access to previously.

Thank you for your time and all of your infomation, I really do apprecaiate it.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:27 am:   

Cydectin and Ivermectin are in the same class of dewormers. You might want to wait a couple of weeks to see if she is better. No dewormer "cures" a goat overnight or even really in a few days. They kill the worms, that is all. Even after that a goat can stil decline. As the worms die and let go of the abomasum and intestinal lining, they leave small bleeding wounds. So a goat is still losing blood until those wounds clot and begin to heal. Then she needs to build new red blood cells, but the damaged intestine does not absorb iron well. Giving an injectable iron supplement is often helpful, such as Ferrodex. Give a dose once a week for several weeks. A goat has to heal, and that can take a good bit of time, sometimes months. If she were mine I would wait 2 to 3 weeks, have a fecal exam done to see if she needs deworming again. And if she does I would consider using another class of dewormer, such as synanthic, levamisol, valbazen. Some of these are not recommended for pregnant does.

It is likely she never had good mineral supplementation either, most goats never get the copper they need. Copper is essential for a strong immune system, resistance to parasites and for iron absorption and building red blood cells. Be sure you are offering a good loose mineral with 900 to 1500 ppm copper. This will also take a while to build up to good levels in her body.

Go slow, take baby steps, let her heal in her own time.
Maggie Leman
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Amanda Scanlan
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 09:42 am:   

Thank you, I appreciate the fast reply. I'm still working on my pygmy that is down. I really think she is loaded with worms. She passed a lot of berries overnight. She isn't pushing like she was, I guess I won't have to give the enema. Do you think it would be safe to dose her w/ cydectin even after I gave her ivomec two days in a row?
I really appreciate your help. Thank you so much
Amanda
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 09:36 am:   

I have used it for years for my pregnant does. It is considered safe for pregnant cattle. Give 2 times the cattle dose by weight, give it orally.
Maggie Leman
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Amanda Scanlan
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 09:31 am:   

Is cydectin safe for a pregnant doe? Thank you.

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