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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1514 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.215.105  Rating: N/A |
If a goat can't urinate at all no home remedy will help, they have to be able to pass some urine. It is possible that Ray Ray passed the stone that was blocking him on the way to the vet. They often lodge in the very tip of the penis and this tiny tip will very often "blow out" pretty quickly. And it is seldom that the goat has only one stone. Usually the bladder is FULL of hundreds or thousands of stones ranging from BB sized to grains of sand. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Megan New member Username: schef1mm Post Number: 27 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 64.105.216.245  Rating: N/A |
I've heard that a couple tablespoons of apple cidar vinegar in their water is supposed to help prevent, but not cure, urinary calculi. I don't know though. I put it in their water and they seem to like it so I figure I'll continue doing so. | ||
| sandi New member Username: sandivan Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 207.170.222.180 Rating: N/A |
just wondering. Home remedy for kidney stones is cream of tarter. do you think this would help goats with urinary calculi? | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 94 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.212 Rating: N/A |
Fortunately, after 3 hours of calling vets in the area I found Dr. Spies whose clinic is an hour and a half away. Bless her and her assistant, they were ready last night for surgery. About an hour in to the drive, I pulled over for gas and to get redirected (got lost). A friend came with me and I asked her to check on Ray Ray, there was quite a large stream coming from under the trailer. Ray Ray had urinated! Dr. Spies got a urine sample, yup he peed again! The results will be in tomorrow. She did take blood work and found that his glucose was unusually high, white blood cell count was very high, and that he was anemic. He also still has large strongids. She recommended Ivermec drench for sheep with a dosage twice that for sheep (6cc per 26 lbs) and said that the Ivermec for cattle and swine is not managed as well in the goat's system as the one for sheep. Hmmm. She did an ultrasound of his bladder and intestines. Intestines are fine. Bladder was hard to view as he is so thick. Treatment course 1/2 tsp ammonium chloride daily for a week. No grain for a week. Nexel for the next 5- 7 days to address the infection. Has a nasal discharge but lungs are clear. Could have a bladder infection. Gave him CD&T vaccine as a precaution due to the high glucose in his blood. B-complex twice this week and 1 cc of Ferrodex given last night. Anemia could be from worms, and from the red maple leaves and live oak leaves he found in the woods. When I got him home he immediately started to eat hay- acted as if he was starved. Today he did some browsing of grass. He showed interest in Sylvia. He's better. I am very grateful to this vet who came in on a holiday to care for my Sweet Ray Ray. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1509 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.215.105 Rating: N/A |
Not much, try to get a vet, he needs help ASAP. If he can't pass urine at all giving ammonium chloride won't help. Try to get a vet to see him tonight and maybe you can snip the end of the penis off and get urine flow back and start treating with antibiotics, banamine, and ammonium chloride. But until he can pee he is in a critical medical emergency. Don't let him drink anymore water, this only swells the bladder more. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 93 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.193 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, I can not reach our usual vet. Ray Ray's legs, hair around his penis are dry. What can I do? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1507 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.215.105 Rating: N/A |
If you have banamine give that at 1 cc pe 100 pounds. You might start him on penicillin too, UC is often associated with a bladder infection. His temp is within normal limits, but a bladder infection doesn't always produce a fever. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 92 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.193 Rating: N/A |
Maggie his temperature is 103.2 I'll try to reach a vet. What can I do in the mean time for him? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1504 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.215.105 Rating: N/A |
This really sounds like UC. It can occcur very quickly, especially with what he has been through. Feel around his sheath to see if it is dry, feel his legs and bear for fresh urine. Call the vet ASAP. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 91 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.173 Rating: N/A |
Ray Ray had his rhinoplasty and has done well. He has regained his weight and was doing well until today. I found him not interested in browsing. When he stands he stretches his hind legs. He has been able to eliminate stool. I have not seen him urinate. His sides are bulging on both sides. The only change in feed has been that the feed that I got from the mill last week had a good coating of molasses on it. I have them prepare my feed with little to no molasses. So I am not sure if I am dealing with a belly ache, or urinary calculi or both. I have given him baking soda in water, milk of magnesia and a pinch of calcium chloride. |