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     Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 82 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.143 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, He is too weak to go out to eat. This morning, I fixed him a gruel of bran cereal, some of his favortie horse treats electrolyte powder, milk replacement, and wheat germ. I gave him probios paste to start. I was able to syringe in about 1qt. His temperature is 98.9. He is standing on his hind legs- butt in the air. This is more strength than he had last night. He is drawing in his nares on inhilation, could he have a nasal obstruction in both nostrils? I'm trying to get hold of a vet to come out and look at him. I'm going to get him some horse hay and will bring in some branches for him. It didn't look like he touched the ones that I brought in last night. right now, I think that I need to syringe in nutrition. This is why I thought of senior horse feed- easy to digest and a pellet that I could blenderize and make a puree to syringe in his mouth. Yes, he seems to be that weak. | ||
| Ann Flickinger New member Username: annflickinger Post Number: 55 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.72.111.3 Rating: N/A |
Just a thought. I feed my goats bagged timothy and alfalfa for rabbits as a treat, it seems to be high quality and they go crazy for it. Maybe he would enjoy that to help with the roughage. I get it at local animal feed store, but you should be able to get it at any pet supply store. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1347 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109  Rating: N/A |
The constant changing of his diet throws his microbes even further off. Don't add the show bloom it has alot of fat he really doesn't need. Stop changing his diet. Stick with whatever you gave last it is quite adequate. Encourage him to eat roughage. Give the probiotics and B Complex. Don't give the ester C it is not the same as vitamin C and he really is getting enough of that. Mostly he needs a bland STEADY diet with as much roughage as possible and plenty of fluids. For energy you might mix up some Magic solution (1 part molasses, 1 part veg oil, 2 parts karo syrup mixed with a bit of warm water to thin it some) and give an ounce or so 2 to 3 times a day. Offer roughage, hay, alfalfa pellets, leaves. Does he go out to forage and graze? This might help too. Try the Excenel at leat 24 hours after the last Nuflor. The dose is 1 cc per 25 pounds by SQ injection once a day. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 81 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.181 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, I put leaves and pine needles in the barn for him. He does a very small amount of nibbling. Can I switch to Exenel, I do have it. I'll check his temp in the morning. Could I give him show bloom as a gruel? I do have a good vet but he only works Tues thru Thurs. 3 weeks a month and he no longer comes out to farms. I've tried other vets in our area, but they apply their knowledge of cows on goats. I'm going to call the vet tomorrow and see what his thoughts are. Thanks Maggie. I expected to find him gone this afternoon, but he seemed better. Miracles do happen, this is an answer to prayer. Prayerfully and hopefully this is the beginning of his recovery. Nutrition is an important key to his improving along with the right medication. Do you think he could tolerate ester C? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1346 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
Will he eat hay? That is much better for him than any grain product but try the Senior Horse Feed. Try forage, leaves, pine needles, some alfalfa if you have it. Discontinue the banamine for at least 12 hours and take his temp to see if he spikes a fever. If giving the nuflor SQ anywhere you can pull up loose skin is good. If the nuflor was going to work I would think he would be much better by now. Is he anemic? Worms can really mess them up, but it does sound more like pneumonia. I have always used Naxcel for pneumonia, I don't have any experience with Nuflor. Do you have a good vet? Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 80 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.181 Rating: N/A |
He is not cudding. I gave him about 1 1/2 cups of gruel with bran cereal, electrolyte powder with probios and milk replacement in warm water by syringe. I also gave him about pint plus of water with electrolytes. I gave him another banamine shot, and a vitamin B complex shot. He has had 4 Nuflor treatments. Should I continue with the Nuflor? Where is the best placement for the injection- neck, over the ribs, shoulder. His lungs sound like that have fluid in them. If he continues to improve, could I give him Senior horse feed? I'm trying to think of something that I can give him that would be gentle on his stomach. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1343 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
Sounds like a plan. Do give the probios once or twice daily, if he is not eating then his digestive microbes are dying too. Don't give an acid like vinegar but you might give a bit of baking soda and water. Vitamin B complex would be good too. What is his temp? Does he even attempt to chew cud? Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.147 Rating: N/A |
He is very weak, but made it through the night. I am going to try a warm gruel of bran cereal and goat milk replacer with probios in it. I'm also going to give him so more banamine. | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 207.69.137.15 Rating: N/A |
I know this is going to sound crazy, but, if you tried oatmeal, maybe try rice with a small amount of chicken broth. Maggie, what do you think? My guard dog would not eat and the vet told me to give him rice with chicken broth. He recovered. Maybe it will work on goats. I don't know. Also, a few weeks ago I had an 8 month old doeling that had not eaten feed in two weeks and very little hay and graze. I took her to the vet and he gave her 10cc probias paste for 6 days. After the third day she started nibbling at her feed and now she is back to normal. This is only my experience. Good Luck! Sandee | ||
| Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser New member Username: barbbarry Post Number: 77 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 65.168.148.131 Rating: N/A |
Ray Ray had been getting better. Tonight, he appears very weak, breathing is shallow. He prefers to stand and when I left him he was lying down. I think that he has stopped eating. He was grinding his teeth, so I gave him a banamine shot. I don't know what to do. I want to try to give him something that is easy and gentle on his stomach to eat. The only thing that I can think of is oatmeal. Any suggestions? I've read that vitamin C would be helpful. That this could be given as an injection, if this is something to try, how do I give it to him. I only have powdered vitamin C. Is apple cider vinegar anything that could help. I have power punch, geritol. What can I do to help him. I've been praying for a miracle for my Ray Ray. I love him so much. |