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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1232 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109  Rating: N/A |
Golden Blend is a great mineral. And yes I am sure about the SQ injections. Many drug companies are now actually spending the money to get SQ injections approved for their drugs because meat goat and beef cattle producers are demanding it. The absorption rate is only very slightly slower, not enough to make a difference. I haven't given an IM injection in years, my goats are deeply thankful. The only real difference is with CDT vaccine going SQ. CDT vaccines are notorious for leaving a lump. Now you can often see the bump that would have been deep in the muscle, making it very sore and wrecking a good cut of meat! Years ago I vaccinated my herd on the weekend giving the injection IM like I had been taught, all in the same leg. Every single goat turned up lame in that leg. Later that week I had the vet out to get health papers for a show, explaining that I had vaccinated the weekend before and some of the goats were still sore and limping slightly and the good Dr. failed my herd! Not long after I learned that I could go SQ and since then no one has gone lame from the vaccine but I do have to deal with a lump every now and then. I just be sure to inject in the side the judge looks at the least and right behind the elbow where a lump can't be mistaken for a more suspicious CL abscess. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Dwight Currie New member Username: crookedtreefarm Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 209.221.46.140 Rating: N/A |
Thanks a lot for the info. I gave the antibiotics for 3 days as per my Vet, not 5 as you suggest. I was able to find Golden Blend Goat Minerals this weekend and they have had them free choice since Saturday. Whatever the bumps were, they are gone or going now and I'm glad. The info regarding SQ injections for everything will make my life simpler. The IM stings and they cry and we hate to hurt them more than necessary. You're sure the SQ will be just as effective?...Not second guessing you, just wanting to be sure. Thanks again Dwight | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1231 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
The bumps could be insect bites or a bacterial infection called dermatophilus or even mites. Dermatophilus will often clear up by itself but responds well to a zinc oxide ointment such as diaper rash cream. If it was mites the cydectin likely killed them. Flies will also bite ear tips and noses leaving a hard bump. You shouldn't give antibiotics at every cough, sneeze or runny nose. Giving just one shot doesn't do anything at all to cure an infection. Nearly all antibiotics are given for 5 to 7 days. If the cough or discharge cleared up with just one treatment it likely would have cleared up on its own anyway. Check the temperature of the goat FIRST and only give antibiotics if the goat has a fever over 104. A nasal discharge that is clear or just whitish and thin is usually an allergy or a virus and giving antibiotics doesn't do anything. A thick greenish or yellow discharge is probably a bacterial infection and will likely respond to a round of antibiotics. Also no need to give any drug IM you can give it SQ. All IM injections cause muscle damage. I have found that proper mineral supplementation, especially being sure the goats have enough copper makes their immune systems stronger. Look for a loose mineral with 900 to 1800 ppm copper and 300 to 5000 ppm zinc. Good zinc levels help with skin condition. The CDT vaccine also challenges the immune system and the stress of that can make the goats feel a bit poor for a day or so setting them up for a brief bout with the "snots". Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Dwight Currie New member Username: crookedtreefarm Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 209.221.46.140 Rating: N/A |
I'm a newbie with goats and have a small herd of 15. I drenched them with Cydectin, but used light doses. I discovered my error and 2 weeks later used the proper amount. As I was worming them for the second time, I noticed that all the younger and a few of the older ones had small bumps on their ears and noses. The bumps were about the size of a BB, and were quite numerous, especially at the ear tips. They didn't look like warts but most of the goats hads them. The only thing at this point they had been given other than the too small dose of Cydectin was a CD&T injection. 2 cc each SQ. The whole bunch was eating fine and not showing any other symptoms besides the bumps. I decided to reworm and watch them for a few days to see what developed. Within 2 or 3 days of worming them with the proper dosage, the bumps started to shed off leaving pink skin underneath and hair began to regrow. It's been 2 weeks and the bumps are gone on most of them. A few still have a very few, but they seem to be going too. Since the worming We have had a few with runny noses and slight coughs. I injected Oxymycin IM, and they cleared up, and now all seem to be doing fine... I love my little bunch and would like to know what brought this outbreak on, and how to prevent this happening in the future....Any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated. |