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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1166 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 64.102.64.115  Rating: N/A |
Give the B comp[lex for a week or two and nutridrench. I have all of my fingers crossed. Please check the other goats and treat as necessary. A loose mineral is used much better by goats especially those on browse only. or use the Sweetlix mineral bucket for goats on browse. If you don't provide enough copper this will be an ongoing problem. They really need to have 1200 to 1800 ppm. They can 't licka hard mineral block enough to get what they need, those blocks are mostly just salt anyway. And I don't want to tell you about the kidding season from hell when the does are deficient. Texas is quite copper deficient and it is a parasite paradise. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| David Ashmore New member Username: ashy25 Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 71.77.203.36  Rating: N/A |
Maggie.. Thanks for your help.. It had meant alot.. We called a friend of ours that has boer goats and got some B complex from him and gave it to him.. We also gave him the iron shot which seemed to help a bit.. He already seems a little more alert and is standing and walking a bit better.. I know its going to take a while for him to recover.. Lets just hope we got it taken care of in time.. He has also licked the mineral block a few times so i think he might be feeling a little better.. i will keep you posted and let you know how things turn out.. Thanks again SO much.. Without your help i believe that i would be digging a hole by now..We are going to give another B complex shot tomorrow granted he makes it trough the night and will keep a close eye on him and make sure that he eats..THANK YOu more than you know.. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1160 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
It may take MONTHS before he really recovers. You have killed a bunch of worms but now they all turn loose of the rumen and intestinal walls, leaving bleeding wounds that must heal. The gut is VERY damaged. Deworming ONLY KILLS THE WORMS, it does not heal the goat. He has virtually no real reserves being so anemic. You can give the B Complex from the drug store, in the mean time order some online from Jeffers or Valley vet. If you have the iron shots meant for piglets you can give that too. He really is going to take quite a while to begin to recover. Once the eyelids are white the goat is usually within days of dying. He is NOT out of the woods yet. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| David Ashmore New member Username: ashy25 Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 71.77.203.36 Rating: N/A |
Maggie.. we gave the buck the ivomec like you said but he is still not showing any signs of feeling better.. we put out more loose mineral like you said but he has not touched it..I can not find any B complex injectable and was wondering if a B complex from the drug store would be the same taken orally.. Also, would an iron shot do him any good?? he is still urinating normal and clear just not eating and lays around around all day.. i noticed when i was just out checking on him that he is a little getting a bit stumbly.. any more advice would be great.. thanks David | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1156 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
If it has been kept in the fridge or at least indoors it may still be effective. Also start him on the B COmplex and the Goat Nutridrench. He may not act that sick but he is within days or a couple of weeks of dying. One this anemic can crash at any time. Please check ALL of your goats and deworm aggressively to get this under control. Then be sure their loose mineral mix has at least 1200 to 1800 ppm copper. If you are using a feed or mineral labeled for Sheep and Goat it DOES NOT have nearly enough copper. Copper is vital to parasite resistance. Without enough copper your deworming program won't do much good. It will take 6 month to a year for the copper levels to safely build up in the goat's system to really see results, but you have to start somewhere. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| David Ashmore New member Username: ashy25 Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 71.77.197.113 Rating: N/A |
Maggie.. I went out and checked on my buck like you said and found that his inner eye lids are just as white as can be.. he still moves around well and doesnt seem that weak.. The ivomec that my father in law has expired in 2003 and was wondering if it was still safe to give it to him until i can get to the feed store on monday.. Please let me know.. thanks so much for your help.. it means alot | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1152 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
You can call me too if you like I am listed on the Goat 911 contact page in NC. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| David Ashmore New member Username: ashy25 Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 71.77.197.113 Rating: N/A |
thank you so much maggie.. i am going out to check for the things you said right now.. hopefully we can get him all better.. thanks again.. If i have any more problems then i will repost.. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1150 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
First check to see if he is urinating. If the area around his sheath is dry he may be blocked. Is he grinding his teeth? Stretching out like he wants to pee or defecate? Trying to defecate or pee often? If so call a vet now. Check his lowere inner eyelids, they should be deep rosy or salmon pink. If they are pale pink or white he is wormy. Give Ivermectin Injectable for Cattle at 1 cc per 20 to 25 pounds for 2 to 3 days repeat in 2 weeks. YOU MUST BE SURE TO GIVE ENOUGH, if you underdose he will be worse off. This drug is very safe even at 25 times this dose, be sure to give enough. You can give B COmplex injectable once or twice a day for a couple of weeks to help sooth his damaged gut and promote appetite. You can give Goat Nutridrench, RedCell for Horses (give half the horse dose) or Geritol liquid (give the adult dose) once or twice a day for a few weeks to rebuild the iron in his blood. Check all of your goats and dewom ANY that are pale. Boers and boer crosses are especially susceptible to parasites, as a breed they have very little resistance. Adequate copper in their diets is essential. Look for a loose mineral mix that has 900 to 1800 ppm copper. Goats do not do well with blocks, do not offer any other source of salt the minerals have salt added. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| David Ashmore New member Username: ashy25 Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 71.77.197.113 Rating: N/A |
my boer goat buck is acting sick.. he wont eat very much and just lays around all day.. If he is extremely wormy how much ivomec should i give him and how.. any other suggestions that would explain why he acting this way would be very helpfull.. I am extremely worried.. He is a very expensive buck and our only herd sire.. PLEASE HELP |