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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1115 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109  Rating: N/A |
Here's that email (slightly revised and added to) I sent to Paul about SQ vs. IM: I seldom give any IM injections, nearly every drug can go SQ even if it is labeled IM only. It costs the drug companies ALOT of money just to change the instructions to include SQ injections, so many of them are slow in making the change. There is less pain and soreness (lameness), you do not run the risk of hitting a nerve and much less risk of hitting a blood vessel, the absorption rate is only slightly slower going SQ than IM and you don't ruin a good cut of meat or cause muscle damage. Whne giving vaccines SQ you DO have a higher incidence of a lump. But the lump is now just under the skin, not a big lump of scar in the muscle tissue (yes the lump forms just as often when it is given IM you just can't see it!). I use a 20 or 22 gauge needle 1 inch long for all injections. For any drug labeled IV ONLY it MUST be given only by that route. Most of us wouldn't be using those few drugs labeled IV ONLY though. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Paul Gooden New member Username: paullis Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 67.142.130.32 Rating: N/A |
I have talked to Maggie about this same subject and wish she would comment on SQ vs IM. Very enlightening. One inch should be fine. | ||
| Karey Vandermaarel New member Username: karey Post Number: 26 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.14 Rating: N/A |
Thank you! I will try that with the boosters. This is definately a learning curve. I am pretty good at IM injections with my horses but goats are much squirmier! :-) I will also get shorter needles. I think I was using 1". thanks again! | ||
| ~ô¿ô~ (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.132.144.173 Rating: N/A |
CD-T vaccine is bad about creating a lump. I vaccinate around the armpit area where there usually good loose skin to work with. If you just pinch and raise the skin, there will be a tendency to stick the needle thru and into the other side. I learned to pinch loose skin on both sides of a forefinger and raise. This creates a larger pocket under the skin to inject SQ. After injecting the CD-T, I vigorously rub the area to disperse the medicine. No more lumps.  | ||
| Paul Gooden New member Username: paullis Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 67.142.130.35 Rating: N/A |
You may want to use a shorter needle. One inch max and I use half inch. Don't stab yourself and do it slowly. I know sometimes you can try to do it too fast and you lose control. Calm and focused. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1113 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 64.102.64.115 Rating: N/A |
One the page that has the topics listed go all the way to the bottom and on the left hand side you will see Start a New Thread in the dark blue border. Click that and away you go! Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| H. C. Sheldon, Jr New member Username: hcsheldonjr Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 4.249.162.72 Rating: N/A |
Here I go again, intruding on a conversation. Can anyone please tell me how to start a new thread on 411 without an emergency? I can't seem to get a response using the help options. Thanks for your assistance. | ||
| Karey Vandermaarel New member Username: karey Post Number: 25 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.9 Rating: N/A |
I know that I went through the skin on some for sure as I went through the other side too and squirted the vaccine out the other side. Opps. I will rub them better next time. THANK YOU! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1112 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
You didn't do anything wrong, Covexin 8 can definitely cause a lump. It will eventually go away. Be sure you go all the way through the skin, some people inject a tiny amount into the skin and this makes the lumps worse, and vigorously rub the area to disburse the vaccine. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Karey Vandermaarel New member Username: karey Post Number: 24 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.9 Rating: N/A |
Hi Maggie, I vaccinated all of my goats on July 28th with Covexin 8 and also gave them all a dose of selenium. Both meds given SQ. Now, I have noticed that almost all of them have lumps at the site where there received their needles. What did I do wrong? Is there anything I could have done differently? Is there anything I should do now? I have to booster them again in a couple of weeks. I gave them all 3 cc of Covexin 8. |