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     Teresa Robbins New member Username: trob1 Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 207.69.137.35 Rating: N/A |
I had this happen this spring with a first freshener. I went out every 2 hours for 4 days with last feeding at 10 pm and hooked my doe up to a hook in the wall the I pushed her against the wall and put the baby up to her udder. I had them in a stall to themselves and to my surprise by the 3rd day she was talking to him and on the 4th evening I went out to do the 8pm feeding and to my surprise she was letting him nurse and licking his backside. From that moment on she was in love with him and the best mother. I did this all on my own and am glad I never gave up cause 4 days was much easier than 12 weeks of bottles. He even turned out to be the sweetest little boy ever. Don't give up you will be glad in a few days when she falls in love with her baby and you can let her do the work. | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 114 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.33 Rating: N/A |
Hi I would try and get the kid on a bottle now if she doesn't let it nurse. Sometimes the udder is sore and swollen makes them not stand and let the baby nurse but some just flat not want them. Barbara Howard Capri-Medic jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| candylou46 (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 70.44.49.147 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for all your help. The baby stayed with her mom last night and when I snuck a peek at them they were laying, side by side, in the pen. As soon as the baby started to move around and hunt for a teat, mom moved off to the side and didn't let her nurse. I went out and held the doe and got the kid positioned so she got a few sucks but that was all she got. I'm doing this by myself, so it's a bit difficult without 4 arms. I'll keep trying. When should I give the kid a bottle? or shouldn't I? | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 206.157.148.151 Rating: N/A |
Hi The baby needs 1 ounce of colostrum for every pound of bodyweight. I would feed every every 2 hours. Yes tomorrow try and get her back on her. | ||
| Don (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.131.176.61 Rating: N/A |
A doe with first time kidding many times freaks out and rejects its newborn. You usually can get her to accept her kid with some tedious persistance on your part. This will prove a much better option than bottle feeding several times a day over and over for several weeks. I find that newborns do not so easily accept a rubber nipple at first so I take a 12cc syringe with a 1 inch piece of tiny vinyl tubing on the end and feed the colostrum that way. The colostrum is thicker than milk so have to give very slowly giving the newborn time to swallow it down. I try to feed the amount the baby will accept at first and feed often no more than 4 hrs apart. Overnight can be 6 hours before early morning feeding. To get the doe to accept the kid, you will have to restrain her by having someone hold her head or horns preferably next to a wall to prevent the back end from swinging away. I use some rope and tie her horns up against a wall. Then stand the baby up and hold it in place then get one of the doe's nipple in its mouth. At same time have to keep the doe from kicking the baby away. You may really have to be firm with the doe because she can be real resistant. Also be aware the doe may reach around and nip the tail of the baby to pull it away. At first you may be sucessful for the baby to get only a few sucks from the nipple. After that, go ahead and milk some off the doe and manually feed the baby. If you keep trying several times a day to position the baby and getting it to suck, the mom at some point usually gets used to it and accepts her kid. Between feedings keep the baby and mom together in a small pen like 4x5 ft. This will also help them bond. Also good to keep the baby out of the hot sun and summer heat so it does not dehydrate. When milking the doe, good practice to milk off one or two good squirts to the side before collecting the milk. As I understand it, the colostrum is only produced withing the first 12 to 24 hrs after kidding, so important to give the newborn adequate amounts during this time for its health. Please keep posting and let us know how its going. | ||
| candylou46 (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 70.44.49.147 Rating: N/A |
Our spoiled rotten doe just gave birth to her 1st kid. She refuses to have ANYTHING to do with her. Butts her, kicks at her won't let her nurse. I've attempted to milk some of the colostrium with a bit of sucess. How much do I need and how often do I give it to the kid? I want her safe and warm for tonight--should I keep trying to get Mom to accept her tomorrow? |