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     Tammy Hunt New member Username: billandtam Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 207.144.133.149 Rating: N/A |
Just wanted to say that thanks to all of you and lots of medicine and love, Elmo is doing much better. Sadly enough we lost TJ last Wednesday morning, but the poor guy was so miserable that it was almost a blessing. Six days from the onset of symptoms to his death. Elmo first showed symptoms on June 13th and now six days later he's eating, walking normally and getting much stronger. We're still continuing his penicillen for a few more days, just once a day though. Thank you new friends at Goat 911!! | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 92 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.84 Rating: |
Hi When Listeria gets that faer along it is really hard to turn them around. I treat with 1cc/15 lbs sq of Procaine Penicillin every 6 hours around the clock for 24-48 hours and if the improvement is not suitable then I stick with the 6 hour treatments longer. I would also give 500mgs of Thiamin sq on the same shecdule as the Pen. I would do .5cc of Dexamethazone also twice a day. Barbara Howard Capri-Medic jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 966 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141  Rating: |
The dose for dexamethazone is 0.1 mg/kg A kg (killigram) is 2.2 pounds). Give once a day by IM injection. Probably for 3 to 5 days. They might need to be weaned off dex, your vet will know about giving decreasing doses to safely wean them off a steroid. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 207.144.133.181 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, I went to the vet and got the meds you recommended, but my vet wasn't sure what dosage of the Dexamethazone should be administered. These are both about 80-90 pound goats. Thank you so very much! | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 207.144.133.181 Rating: N/A |
Thank you Maggie. I'll call my vet now. I've moved them to a pasture away from their barnyard, feed and hay and thought I'd leave them their until we figure out what's happening. They have shelter their too, since Tropical Storm Alberto has picked this inopportune time to visit our area! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 965 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: |
High doses of penicillin 3-4 times a day (1 cc per 15 pounds by SQ injection), plus thiamin (vitamin B1) 3 to 4 times a day, plus a steroid such as dexamethazone is the complete treatment for listeriosis. You have to give alot of penicillin to get the antibiotic into the brain where the infection is. You can use Fortified B Complex which has 100 mg/ml of thiamin, giving 1 cc per 20 pounds by SQ injection. Dexamethazone you have to get from a vet and isn't absolutely essential by may help with brain swelling. Listeria is a very common bacteria that occurs in feed, silage, and hay that is contaminated with dirt. If you feed off the ground or if the goats are picking up dropped chicken feed, bird feed or dogfood, this could be the cause. Damp conditions promote the growth of listeria bacteria. Look at your feed and hay for the likely source. You can't see it, smell it or taste it. It is not contagious goat to goat, but certainly your whole herd can be affected if they are all eating the contaminated feed or hay. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 207.144.133.181 Rating: N/A |
Oh and one more thing. Their feed has not changed at all. I'm a bit worried that some hay we gave them may have been moldy, although I can't see any mold on it. The bale was definitely from last years harvest. I have not fed anymore of that bale since yesterday. They are grain fed and graze on our land. Same grain for years from the same feed store. I haven't taken their temp yet, and there does not seem to be paralysis other than TJ's lower jaw and tongue. No bloating at all. | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 207.144.133.181 Rating: N/A |
Pam, thank you so much! I don't feel so all alone now. Their symptoms both began with profuse salivation of brown rumen. Then they lean against a wall and become disoriented - not responding to their names or call to feed. "TJ" who has been sick the longest has had one eye completely glazed over with a thick blue film and appears to be blind in that eye. His tongue has hung to one side during most of his illness and seems to be very rigid, and his lower jaw drooped when he was still standing. He will swallow fluid when it's given to him (with a turkey baster), but has had no food since late Thursday now. He is finally responding with a week baaa when we call his name and has even stood up a couple of times to move around, but afterwards he is completely zapped of energy. As of yesterday he was still producing pellets and urinating, but I can't see any evidence of that today. We actually called our vet yesterday to discuss having him put to sleep, but he suggested we keep trying the high doses of penicllen. | ||
| Pam M. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 67.72.98.118 Rating: N/A |
Tammy, what exactly are the symptoms that make you think listeriosis? Are they circling, heads drawn back, is there fever? What are their temps? Paralysis on one side? Drooling? Are they bloated? Has anything changed in their feed, hay? You may have something else going on there. Give more info on symptoms. Hopefully someone with more knowledge will answer but more information would be of help. | ||
| Tammy Hunt (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 207.144.133.181 Rating: N/A |
We have a herd of 29 goats, Neubian/Boer mix. Friday june 9th, a two year old male, castrated, bottle fed, became infected with what we are pretty sure is listeriosis. He's still alive, but barely hanging on and hasn't had anything to eat other than electrolyte replacement since Friday. Today, another male, also castrated, also bottle fed has started with brown rumen coming out of his mouth and is already leaning against the wall. We've had "TJ" the first one infected, seperated from the herd since Friday and on heavy doses of penicillen. When "Elmo" showed symptoms, I immediately removed him from the herd and gave him his first injection. Oh, my God, is my whole herd going to be infected and if so, is there anything we can do to stop this? Please help. We are just people who started out with two goats and we love them like our children. |
