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Paul Gooden
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 05:49 am:   

Let me take the opportunity to thank you for your compassion shown to their lamb. We are all entrusted with the care of the creatures of this earth and that ranges from tough love to holding an animal in our arms while it passes. I have been permitted to do both and I count each a blessing. Returning each of those creatures to the earth is done with reverance and care. Sometimes we have to stand up to our fellow caretakers and remind them of their stewardship. 'nuf said. Good luck.
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Michelle Simmons
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 05:31 am:   

I have read your article. I just hate irresponsible people. The dog is not mine it is the other house on the compound that owns him, he is some kind of Great Pyrenees cross. And has mostly killed their own animals 3 chickens to young turkey's & seriouslly mammed their baby lamb, which I drug away from the dog & revived while they where away for 5 days without locking the dog up or letting me know. They since have not even thanked me for saving the life, or said sorry about the dog. Or anything at all. They do know I saved the lamb as I had the 1 of the cattle ranchers come & take it to the origanal seller of the sheep for care until they came home.
Both of us My fellow land sharer & I have told the lady the dog is a serious problem.
I also told her that he had been rolling one of my doelings around & that I was not sure if her pelt would return to normal or not. And that they are pedigreed cashmere for show. The doelings used to come out of there yard to play with my children, but no more can I allow that to happen.
I will not have a problem if the dog comes back I know what must be done. And my fellow land sharers agree it is only the dog owner with problem of how to handle such a large dog.
For me it is depressing I feel I can not leave & go in to town without the dog at the least running around yard & barking at them. Futheer more I do not know how to deal with the owneres of the dog, because they have suffered the most loss and still let him run freely around the compond. Its as if we are all raising livestock for the dog to play with & Kill. Also I love big dogs & have trained dogs for myself that I trained. Even the bulldog needs reminding now & then, but the mutt does very well.

We must all remember when raising goats & other animals,
The dogs food is made of our opportunity, Or beloved pets. And will always want a fresh food just like us.
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Paul Gooden
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Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 08:25 pm:   

"Dead buckling" was my article and dogs aren't "playing" any more than cats play with songbirds. They are both predators and will kill what they can. On the working farm you eliminate animals that kill livestock unless you want more livestock killed. Some dogs are bred to live with livestock and that includes such as Great Pyrenees, etc. and even then they must be acclimated to the livestock. For those who raise livestock as a business rather than a hobby you soon learn to count the cost between a killer pet dog and dead livestock.
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Michelle Simmons
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Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 05:57 pm:   

Actually I gave him only 1/4 oz.
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Michelle Simmons
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Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 05:02 pm:   

Thanks for all of the posts with useful info. I have not yet read that article. But, I do know what dogs can do to all livestock thinking they are only playing. We share the land with several ranchers who are not very happy with the dog.

But can anyone tell me how much horse iron supplement I should give him we looked every where & this is the only type. I have given him 1/2oz 1 a day for 2 days. Is this a safe amount, more less, anyone?
He wieghts about 125 pounds.
He has started to bury his head in the hay again, & be aggressive with the other goats over it. But no ration as of yet.
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jessica r (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 11:05 am:   

just a thought that you might want to read the post titled " dead buckling" Even the sweetest pups will kill livestock thinking that they are playing with them. From one who knows.

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