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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 05:57 pm:   

My first choice has been Naxcel for quite a while this is the same as Excenel. I wouldn't even bother with pen or oxytet at this point. Most antibiotics work best at the first symptoms, same for excenal (naxcel). Baytril is a last ditch, all out effort and if your vet is willing go that route do so. You can give the Banamine twice a day. You can certainly try the motrin, it is good for about 4 to 6 hours.
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Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 05:50 pm:   

After giving the banamine this morning, he was out and eating leaves and hay and walked like his old self. He was very alert and interested in eating a handful of pellets. I was soooo pleased. Checked his temp and it was 104.9 but this afternoon he is back hiding in his house and not interested in anything. His temp is 106.5 11 hours after giving the banamine. I can't give him more until 9 o'clock tomorrow morning. Do I chance giving it every 12 hours? Should I just give the motrin liquid instead? The nuflor does not seem to be working because I gave him 3cc. last night and he weighs 50lb. I had given 2 1/2 cc in his first shot the day before. I have LA200 and Pro Pen G (hate to give this twice a day though). I asked my vet what his next choice would be for antibiotics and he said Baytril. Do you agree on that choice? I feel like I am fighting an uphill battle. Some one on another group said I needed Tylan 200, someone else Excenel. Guess everyone has his/her favorite. Is that a better choice than anything else? I trust your advice in this matter. Thanks so much.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 01:22 pm:   

Banamine once a day at 0.1 cc per 10 pounds by SQ injection. I try not to give it more than 3 days but if they need it I give it. He could be temporarily sterile from a fever but not permanently. Give the Nuflor every other day at 3.5 cc per 100 pounds.

The temp is down because he has less energy reserves to run a fever...He is still very very sick.

They might be confusing Motrin with Immodium. Immodium is definitely a no no in goats and other ruminants.
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Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 08:23 am:   

By the time I got your post I had already been to vet and got 2 more syringes of Nuflor so I will stick to that I guess. Also I remembered my Naxcel went through Katrina when our power was off for an extended time and things did thaw so I am throwing that away. On another goat group someone mentioned that Motrin was not safe for goats...I still don't believe that altogether but since someone said he may be sterile if his temp stays too high for too long I got banamine from my vet so the temp and pain will be relieved. . This vet isn't a goat vet and told me to give it three times a day. Now I have read give it once a day for no more than three days. Which do you advise, Maggie? This morning he is no better after his second shot of Nuflor yesterday evening. His temp was down slightly however but still too high 106.3. He is getting a little weaker but runs from me now. Gave him nutri-drench, probios, and VetRx as well. He still eats hay, a little, and drinks water. Other than that he lies around. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 04:51 pm:   

Use the Naxcel, give 1 cc per 50 pounds twice a day by SQ injection. Give a double first dose called a loading dose. He is no better, the nuflor should have had effect by now, it is given every other day for teh best results in goats, one injection is not enough.

Both penicillin and oxytet have alot of resistance and are not often very effective in respiratory disease.
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 06:45 am:   

Just thought of this, I have several syringes of Naxcel in my freezer but they were mixed almost a year ago...one vet told me they would keep a year or so frozen. (I've heard diferently online.) Should I use or dispose of them? Don't want to do the wrong thing.
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 06:42 am:   

I know I am probably being overly concerned but this morning he is depressed again with temp of 106.5. He didn't get Motrin overnight so I know that is why it is up again. I just gave Probios, Vit B complex, Motrin and VetRx. He is sleeping in his house with his head down in front of him. He does have enough energy to fight me though. I understand that the Nuflor takes a while to get in his system and is the best choice but I am just thinking I have Pro Pen G and LA200 on hand. Should I consider giving him either at this point or am I just being a worried mom? I can get another shot of Nuflor for tomorrow if I need to, if that is a better choice. Also he did not eat any of his feed this morning but still will eat leaves and hay. Thanks so much for your help.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   

Thank you, Maggie, for your reply. Tonight he actually seems better...hopefully I caught it early. Tonight he even showed interest in a doe in heat...a very good sign, I guess. He ate about a quarter of his normal feeding this evening and ate some leaves and hay. His temp is down to 104.9 but it is very hot here in Mississippi.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   

Sounds like you are doing everything you can. It can take 24 to 48 hours for an antibiotic to start to work. Keep giving teh Porbios, B Complex, Vet RX and Motrin to help him feel better until the Nuflor kicks in.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 03:35 pm:   

I have a 9 month old buck who didn't eat all his feed yesterday morning but acted normal otherwise. Yesterday afternoon my husband fed for me and I didn't realize it but my buck didn't clean his feed up then either. This morning he was lying down in his house and ate only a few pellets. His tail is down and he looked generally miserable. I took his temp and when it reached 106.5 and was still rising, I headed for the Nuflor. Also he has a clear discharge from his nose. He has had a cough recently but thought it was due to the dry, dusty conditions here...no rain recently. I gave him 2 1/2 cc of Nuflor, 2 cc. Fortified Vit B Complex, VetRx,and Probios. A little later he perked up and ate hay, moving around more than he had previously. Checked his temp this afternoon and it was still 106.9 though his tail is up now, not down to his rump like before. I gave him Children's Motrin hoping to bring down the temp. Is there anything else I should be doing? Our local vet was closed today and he is NOT a goat vet, by any means.

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