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Maggie Leman
Moderator Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 816 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 05:02 pm: | |
That's definitely progress! Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic
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(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 71.38.158.191
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 03:37 pm: | |
She was able to stand with my help this morning and when I just now went out there she stood up on her own for about 15 seconds, her legs are very spread apart when she stands and is still unable to walk but she is making progress so far. She is now able to move her tail which she wasnt able to due yesterday. I gave her a shot of steroids last night and banamine paste last night and this morning. I still have seen no signs of afterbirth or any discharge. She is nibbling on alfalfa (just a little bit) and drinking water. |
Jessica Radlinski
New member Username: jkrnjr
Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 209.193.43.101
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:43 pm: | |
A friend of mine had a doe with really hard delivery. Her goat slipped a disk and had to go to the cyropractor(sorry about spelling).She was back to normal the next day. Just something to consider. |
Maggie Leman
Moderator Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 807 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:06 pm: | |
Dexamethazone is usually given as a single dose at 1 cc per 20 pounds IM. Banamine can be given once or twice a day at 1 cc per 100 pounds (0.1 cc per 10 pounds) by SQ injection as needed for pain. Banamine shouldn't be used for more than 3 or 4 days. It can cause digestive ulcers. I have only used it once a day and it does a good job of controlling pain. Getting her pain undercontrol can really help turn her around, put her back on feed. It is possible she has eaten her afterbirth and you missed it. Do not give any more oxytocin, it only works while the cervix is open, for about 5 hours after birth. It causes uterine contractions and can make the doe very uncomfortable. In about 3 weeks you can give her a dose of Lutalyse to help her really clean out her uterus. A retained placenta will dissolve and pass as goopy fluid with the lochia (the normal after kidding discharge). Keep her on penicillin twice a day at 1 cc per 20 pounds by SQ injection for at least 5 days. B Complex can be given SQ, and since you are not really treating polio give according to the recommendations on the bottle (use the sheep dose if one isn't given for goats). This helps sooth the digestive tract, helps with nerve function, encourages appetite. Give it twice a day. Mushy poop is pretty normal after any birth. The organs are returning to their prepregnancy positions and not functioning perfectly. Try to encourage her to eat hay, and only a little grain right now. You can mix up a batch of Magic solution (1 part molasses, 1 part vegetable oil and 2 parts Karo syrup with a bit of warm water to thin it some) and give her 2 to 3 ounces by drench 2 to 3 times a day for energy. She might like a thin oatmeal swettened with a bit of molasses or a bran mash (mix wheat bran with very warm water to thick oatmeal consistancy). Monitor her temperature twice a day for signs of infection, normal is 101.5 to 103. is possible she has a uterine tear and can develop peritonitis. Any tear will either heal up or not on its own, time will tell. Love her and pet her, brush her gently, scratch her favorite places, be sure she is bedded deep to avoid sore spots. Good luck, keep us posted. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic
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(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 71.38.158.191
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 05:41 pm: | |
Thank-you for giving me hope. How much and how often should I give the Banamine, dexamethazone, and B complex? Also she has not expelled her afterbirth should I get her another hormone shot or wait a while longer, there is no sign of anything being expelled. She does have mushy poop and I am hoping this is from the medications already given. I do keep the stall cleaned up after her and I have been trying to make her stand every 3-4 hours, I will massage her legs. She also is off feed since yesterday but she will drink water. Thank-you. |
Maggie Leman
Moderator Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 805 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 02:16 pm: | |
Won't hurt to give B Complex too. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic
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Don S. (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.135.142.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 01:57 pm: | |
After what the doe has been thru, would it help also to give her B-complex or thiamin. Or would that interfere with the dex? |
Maggie Leman
Moderator Username: maggieleman
Post Number: 804 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:55 pm: | |
Some banamine and maybe dexamethazone (a steroid to help with inflammation) may help. Be sure you do get her up and "draped" over a hay bale to stretch and massage her legs. You need to do this 4 times a day. A goat that is down for more than a couple of days starts to lose the muscles in the legs and the tendons permanently contract. This is pretty common in cows and they can recover... Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic
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(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 71.214.108.217
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:47 am: | |
My doe now seems to be paralyzed in one hind leg and unable to move her tail, she screems out when trying to stand. I called the vet and he thinks she may have gotten some nerve damage from the large kid being pulled. If this is the case it does not seem like he gives her much hope, he does want to give her 24-48 hours to see if she gets better. Has anyone had this happen or know if I can do anything for her right now to help her. Thank-you |